Wednesday, 20 December 2023

Alternate Best Actor 1991: Utpal Dutt in Agantuk

Utpal Dutt did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying the titular character in Agantuk. 

Agantuk follows a husband and wife, as they receive the wife's long lost uncle, who they aren't sure if he's genuinely her uncle or a stranger there to steal her inheritance. 

As a final send off for Satyajit Ray, this is a very modest, but potent film where essentially we are doing variation on the idea of what exactly bridges the gap between family and strangers. This is personified by Utpal Dutt's titular character, who is the uncle/stranger, who comes into their lives, and creates seeming upheaval as they can't quite be sure if he's the truth or not. Dutt's performance then is essential to creating this mystery of sorts to the film, as the man who could be or could not be who he says he is. Dutt's performance is remarkable in the way he carries himself with this quiet dignity that also is that of an enigma. Dutt importantly plays the part with this sense of knowing in his eyes, about the suspicions of the family, even if he doesn't exactly let on either to completely ease their suspicions. What the man does do though is immediately begin to reveal his great ability for storytelling. Dutt is wonderful in the delivery of his first story with this delivery but also a way of almost looking into the memory as something he is experiencing in the moment. It is difficult to not get caught up with the story yourself as Dutt articulates the memory so authentically as this undisputed truth, that is also filled with a particular style and character that helps to define the man. 

Where the man seems to be less of a mystery is in his interactions with his nephew. Where Dutt brings such an enormous amount of warmth in his performance. There's such a generosity of spirit that seems to exude off of the man as he speaks to his nephew. Dutt is just lovely in these moments in creating the bond, which again he implements through his stories and even just a teaching lesson when he speaks to his nephew and friends about celestial bodies. Dutt suddenly makes the stranger the most wonderful teacher, where he delivers with this exact sense of knowledge, but more importantly the moments he accentuates creates this intrigue. Dutt very much gives a performance as the stranger giving the performance, where he makes the learning not only fun, but creates the sense of connection between uncle and nephew through this experience. And we see this consistently where Dutt brings such a sense of life in each of these interactions. Where Dutt's performance isn't that he shows the nephew brightly shining from the manner of his supposed uncle, but also via Dutt's performance where he brings this particularly important sense of the appreciation the stranger gets from every moment he can entertain and connect to his supposed nephew. 

Still unconvinced, particularly by the husband, we see a series of pseudo interrogators brought in by him to try to decipher the stranger's intention. And these scenes are wonderful "interrogations", where the first one, the man just seems charmed by this man who has these stories from all around the world. And it is easy to find this completely convincing because it is hard not to be charmed by Dutt yourself as he details his view of Calcutta as civilized, or just explaining how the homeless present themselves in New York, it is hard not to get drawn into his calm way of sharing his experiences. But even when barely remembering Pele, which would cause one to think perhaps he's lying about being in South America, Dutt even then is entirely winning in his joking way of noting his complete ignorance of football past a certain geographic area. Dutt disarms with such ease that it becomes impossible to seemingly disbelieve him as just a wonderful man with much history, at least as he runs circles around the first interrogator. The last interrogator is far more intense and far more intended on trying to uncover this man as some liar than reveal a definite truth. And here is where Dutt once again excels here though now with more conflict as the man doesn't just listen to him, but rather constantly challenges him with far more incisiveness than just telling him that someone should know about Pele. A conversation that isn't as much about just who he is, but also the very nature of his philosophy where he has appreciation for traditional cultures as much as he is a man of modern cultures as well. 

Dutt is magnificent in the monologue explaining this appreciation is amazing work, as there is such articulate passion he brings, that so clearly and concisely reasons the man's worldview that while still in conflict, feels just beautifully spoken in every word. When speaking for example on the difference between using a gun to brutally murder many against cannibalism, Dutt's wrapping of the terms of barbarism is almost music in the ease in which he speaks this difficult contrast, and again shows such honest emotion in revealing the very real passions within the man. And what all this reveals is this isn't really a film about a mystery of whether or not the man is this uncle, rather it is merely the story of the discovery of all this man of the world has to offer, and just presenting his unique perspective of the world, while also connecting with who are his family still after all this time. Dutt, who sadly passed away not much later than Ray himself, is essential to the success of this film. Because it is more or less, a series of conversations, nearly monologues in rooms, and the film is a success. One being the words are written brilliantly by Ray as he is able to explore so much with this conceit, but as important is Dutt's flawless delivery of every one of these. Every single one that creates not only a sense of who this "stranger" is, but even more so he makes every story, every philosophical thought, every warm connection with the family, absolutely captivating, pointed, or poignant within his performance. Dutt delivers a truly great performance which does more than make the most of the concept, it gives its essential life, in creating a most fascinating portrait of a most idiosyncratic man. 

121 comments:

Robert MacFarlane said...

Legitimately hated Maestro. Going to be truly embarrassing if Cooper wins for this.

Anonymous said...

Our best hope is this is all just hype for Cooper, and Murphy will be a Kingsley, Scofield or Abraham, where a first time nominee becomes an instant winner as the front of a best picture winning biopic.

Luke Higham said...

1. Dutt
2. Orser
3. Bogosian
4. Fishburne
5. Dano

Matt Mustin said...

1. Dutt
2. Bogosian
3. Orser
4. Fishburne
5. Dano

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Dutt
2. Bogosian
3. Fishburne
4. Orser
5. Dano

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Really have to get around to this film.

Louis: Your top 10 performances in Satyajit Ray films?

Tony Kim said...

Agreeing with Luke's predictions for now:
1. Dutt
2. Orser
3. Bogosian
4. Fishburne
5. Dano

Robert and Anonymous: Yeah, a perennial "bridesmaid" like Cooper will need strong passion to support his "overdue" narrative, and that just hasn't been the case for him with Maestro. I suspect the frontrunner hype for Cooper will be pretty much deflated after the Globes. Not sure if Murphy will be the winner either, though... this could be a race where a dark horse contender triumphs.

Louis: Do you have thoughts/ratings on the supporting actors of Maestro (Bomer, Hawke, Silverman), or did they not leave a strong enough impression for you to have any?

Tony Kim said...

Louis and to everyone else who's seen Maestro and Saltburn - do they at any point justify the use of 4:3 aspect ratios? It seemed fairly arbitrary to me judging by both films' trailers (esp. the latter).

Perfectionist said...

I still feel that Murphy is winning. Oppenheimer seems to be, too grand of an achievement, for it's lead(who clearly is the driving force of the movie with a staggering screen time and too universally agreed upon as the best lead performance of the year) to not win.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1. Dutt
2. Orser
3. Bogosian
4. Dano
5. Fishburne

Jonathan Williams said...

1. Dutt
2. Bogosian
3. Orser
4. Fishburne
5. Dano

Emi Grant said...

I found Maestro tedious and just kinda boring after a while. I thought the first 20 or so minutes weren't bad at all, but after an hour or so I was ready to check out.

I'll co-sign with Michael regarding Cooper vs DiCaprio, though.

Tony: Actually didn't realize it was on a 4:3 aspect ratio the entire time I watched it. So, I have no clue as to what the point was.

Emi Grant said...

I also re-watched Oppenheimer for like, a fifth time now. Still far and away my Picture, Director, Actor, Score and Editing wins.

It should be Murphy. I just refuse to believe anyone else has a chance.

8000S said...

Louis: I've read how IAWL was one of Kurosawa's favorite films. Do you think he used IAWL as inspiration for Ikiru?

Also, for a Kurosawa version of IAWL, Mifune and Kagawa for Stewart and Reed's roles?

RatedRStar said...

To be honest, in regards to Cooper Vs Murphy, I have a feeling it might be the equivalent of Bing Crosby V Alexander Knox, where the bigger star wins as opposed to the respected lesser known performer.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Maestro is a one big compilation of ideas that practically begs for awards recognition, but it also leads absolutely nowhere. And I also agree with Michael on the matter of Cooper vs DiCaprio.

Cooper-3.5
Mulligan-4
Everybody else-2 (basically decoration)

Tony: With Maestro it was supposed to make the whole thing more old school...I guess? This is beacuse 4:3 aspect ratio reminded me of the cards that were used in silent films, but if that was their intent, then they couldn't have asked for a more cryptic approach.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

I didn't note anyone else, because that's part of the problem, every other character is just a vague semblance of an idea. Hawke is the closest to a character, but even she's just kind of there. She's okayish in a very perfunctory way, but nothing to write about in any way.

Saltburn felt like just for the sake of it, except I guess Brideshead Revisited was on TV...but that's pretty weak.

Maestro obviously wanted to reflect the ratio styles of the period in which Bernstein would've been photographed in those times, although even then it isn't really exactly accurate as such.

8000's:

I'd say you see a bigger influence of it on Scandal, as much as Ikiru has technically Capraesque themes, the nature of it is very different tonally.

RatedRStar:

Interesting comparison, although different in that Wilson was a big flop, Oppenheimer is a huge hit, and where the former was only a nominee, Oppenheimer seems like it has the potential to win.

Tony Kim said...

Louis and Ytrewq: I should add, from what I saw, it seemed clear to me that Cooper was trying to mimic Golden Age of Hollywood-era films for the B&W scenes... but for no particular thematic purpose. The reason kind of just amounts to "because it looks cool" in that sense. For Saltburn, I thought it may have been to show how insulated the characters are from the rest of the world, but apparently it was just to give the film a "voyeuristic" feel. From what you say it seems the film wasn't successful at that.

Also Louis - a very minor thing, but I'm sure you'll recall that Tahmeed recently asked you whether you excluded Atkinson in Blackadder from your favourite TV performances list because you hadn't seen S1, or if he just missed the cut. Since you answered "Yes", does that mean it was the former or the latter?

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. Dutt
2. Bogosian
3. Orser
4. Dano
5. Fishburne

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: I haven't seen Maestro yet but just to frustrate you think about what Spielberg and Kushner could've done with it.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes from The Untouchables?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJ539f5Ugc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COU-0Oe1nNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gOePOBgmHY

Calvin Law said...

Louis: thoughts on the Oscar shortlists?

Main disappointing omissions for me in the technical categories is absence of Past Lives in Original Score and Poor Things in Sound; the International FIlm shortlist is expected in a good enough way. Oppenheimer getting in for Makeup is a nice indication of extra passion; Guardians and Barbie missing out there is surprising.

Calvin Law said...

Also I really need to see Agantuk, sounds fascinating.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

1. Madhabi Mukherjee - Charulata
2. Uttam Kumar - Nayak
3. Chhabi Biswas - Jalsaghar
4. Utpal Dutt - Agantuk
5. Madhabi Mukherjee - Mahanagar
6. Anil Chatterjee - Mahanagar
7. Soumitra Chatterjee - JOi Baba Felunath
8. Shailen Mukherjee - Charulata
9. Dhritman Chatterjee - Pratidwandi
10. Soumitra Chatterjee - Charulata

Tony:

I don't recall Tahmeed asking if he just missed the cut, regardless, I didn't include him because I never watched series 1.

Matt:

Yes, that is frustrating, particularly since the material would seem perfect for Kushner to run with.

Tony:

The first is an amazing scene, but like many of De Palma's efforts, it is the "glue" that takes the film down a bit, but when it works it WORKS. And the scene is theoretically kind of ridiculous in some respects, like all the random sailors, but it doesn't matter, just every choice in terms of building and playing with the tension by De Palma sings here, and is just brilliantly conceived sequence from start to finish with every musical sting, bit of slow motion and all of the editing. And really just the genius of having the audience doubly invested in the gunfight and stopping the catastrophe of the baby carriage falling. I especially LOVE the specific buildup to the first shot with the gangster Ness punched earlier, with each zoom in being just amazing, right down to the reveal of the shotgun and the first shot setting everything off. And it must be said, that Stone gets one of the all time greatest badass moments ever, and is one of the greatest sidekicks quite frankly with his "yeah I got him" before the "take him" and the ridiculous, but wonderfully so, reaction of the last henchman.

The bridge scene is pure western, right down to the most heroic aspect of Morricone score, and as sort of the highlight moments of the film, it's a lesser one overall, but still a fun one in just sort of going over the top as a cops vs outlaws more fitting to a John Wayne film than a James Cagney one.

Memorable buildup with De Palma's use again of the killer's POV, particularly with the double fake out of Malone having the man dead to rights, before having instead of the build up but the sudden cut to Nitti with the gun. And as much as I don't think De Niro makes that much of an impression as Capone overall, the crying to smiling is a good moment. And the death scene itself does, and hey Morricone doing heavy pathos might be too much for some, I LOVE it every time. Which does more for me than Costner's acting, which does nothing, but I do like Malone/Connery being less concerned with dealing with dying and more concerned, if not frustrated with getting Ness to get the essential info.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Well first off Society of the Snow Rises? or maybe it was just snuck into each category.

Makeup & Hairstyling:

Agreed that Guardians Snub is absolutely illogical. But just glad to see Poor Things there, and hope it goes the distance.

Score:

Overall mostly good choices, though I'm surprised they didn't disqualify Barbie, The Color Purple or The Holdovers, just because usually they're less generous towards films that are so soundtrack/song centric (at least I'm assuming as such for The Color Purple). Agreed on the snub for Past Lives though, and I'd throw in the Killer as well. I would easily take out Saltburn and Indiana Jones for them (which with the latter I'd be hard-pressed to sing a single note of any new material). Love that Hisaishi has made it this far at least, really hope he gets his long overdue nomination (that would also be extremely deserved for the work itself).

Song:

At this phase I'll just say...look forward to another needless Diane Warren nomination. Some fine choices in there otherwise though.

Sound:

Agreed on the Poor Things snub, though mostly strong choices, glad to see The Killer there, though it probably won't get the nomination.

VFX:

Will be forever incomplete thanks to the Oppenheimer snub, but glad to see Poor Things make it the next step. Otherwise mostly good choices, except Indiana Jones....and I'll see about Rebel Moon soon.

Michael McCarthy said...

Saw The Iron Claw today, ended up being a more than solid sports drama that managed to be portray the tragedy of the real life story bluntly without coming off too heavy handed.

Efron: 4/4.5
McCallany: 4.5
White: 3.5
Dickinson: 4
Simons: 3.5
James: 3.5
Tierney: 4

Matt Mustin said...

I didn't even know about Society of Snow but I'm instantly interested in a new Bayona film.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Thoughts on these Ebert reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXd910vgf3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO743VlJXaU

8000S said...

Louis: How do you think Karloff would have fared as Scrooge if he had played him in something?

Also, Karloff would apparently dress as Father Christmas to give presents to children with disabilities at a hospital in Baltimore. Feels like a film where Karloff is Father Christmas was a missed opportunity, doesn't it? Since Karloff was the complete opposite of the monsters he portrayed so often.

Louis Morgan said...

Rebel Moon, which I watched solely for the potential VFX nomination, is expectedly awful. Just a cliche ridden fest from beginning to end as Seven Samurai IN SPACE, which also has been done before. Which is fine, if you do something charming, entertaining or unique even within the previously used plot points. Unfortunately, the film has none of those things. The characters for the most part are aggressively one note of some minor variation of "bad ass" or "I'M EVIL". The action is a series of Snyder's own cliches in a particularly tiresome package, especially as he once again serves as cinematographer and proceeds to love to have WAY TOO MUCH BLUR. The overall aesthetic feels like Snyder clicked a sci-fi randomizer in terms of both production and costuming. There is no cohesion or greater sense of the world via what we see, rather it just looks like a lot of derivative of other stuff. The cast is nearly uniformly charisma deficient, and it is hard to be engaged by any of this. As with the Creator, just because you call yourself original sci fi, doesn't make you original if you're this derivative, it just means rather than being based on previously existing IP you're merely ripping off previously existing IP. Oh, and the visual effects are largely decent, if helped back again by the overall art direction, though there are some wonky shots throughout, it is best aspect of the film, which isn't saying much.

Boutella - 2
Hounsou - 2.5
Skrein - 2
Hunnam - 2
Huisman - 2
Bae - 2.5
Fisher - 2
Coleman - 1.5
Nair - 2

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Would've been an interesting against cinematic type for him for sure in terms of both accounts.

Tony:

Well the Magnolia review is one of those I was referring to, as Ebert so articulately and passionately lays out what is great about the film, and up against his guest host which gives about as surface of analysis as possible, particularly when speaking about the ending.

And I even believe that to be true with the Gladiator review, even though I side against Ebert, but he is still more articulate about his points, which other than the cinematography, I actually don't think he's wrong in that it is "A Gladiator picture", where I would disagree is that such an action oriented picture can be entertaining or worthwhile in itself. Something if say Siskel liked it, might've been able to articulate better in the conversation. And I think you see a little of the disjointedness, almost in the critic who is more comfortable probably monologuing so that is what we get with the guest more so speaking at Ebert, as Ebert is going into that combat mode, unfortunately Siskel was the only one who could perform that mode with him wholly successfully.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on Ebert's reviews on Dead Poets Society and Fight Club.

Louis Morgan said...

Found the Iron Claw to be a largely moving exploration of both the benefit and burden of family within the unique perspective of being built around a wrestling dynasty. Found this to be easily Durkin's most effectively directed film, granting a mix between this sort of moments of the heightened reality more befitting the wrestling ring in the right moments, which are often subverted through the blunt realities of turmoil within the family. Where I think he's most successful though is this could've easily become just misery for the sake of it, but he provides balance within his direction, that doesn't shy from the sheer pain of certain moments, but does remind you of what good there still can be even within that. Although I would say there are aspects of the film that I think it potentially could have dived into even more to make a truly great film, it stands firm as a very good one.

White - 4
Dickinson - 4
Tierney - 3.5
Simons - 3.5
James - 3.5

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your rating for and thoughts on L.Q. Jones in Casino?

Also, what do you think of this Ebert and Roeper review?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5akjinZKg

For me it perfectly illustrates what didn't work about this duo.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Man, it's going to SUCK if Efron misses out.

Marcus said...

Would never have expected that the lead of High School Musical and an actor from Riverdale are both likely 5's for their work this year, always love an actor proving people wrong.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Marcus: I figured Efron would eventually give a 5 performance at some point. I'm not exactly sure WHERE I came to this conclusion, but I'll just say I saw the potential.

As for Melton, the only thing I had seen him in was his Poker Face episode, where outside of few odd line reads (was trying a little too hard to be dickish), I liked how he still managed to make the character somewhat pitiable. Like, there's a sense of shame by the end. So yeah, I could see he had potential.

Emi Grant said...

Robert: I don't wanna sound pessimistic, but I'll go out on a limb and say "when", not "if".

I'd be shocked if The Iron Claw manages to get *that* much momentum, especially for such a tight category.

Perfectionist said...

Marcus: Tbf, I don't see a reason why an actor from those two things can't put on a 5 performance. Former in particular, cause that was decades ago, and these things just serve as learning experience and unlike the latter, it wasn't something outright bad either. I always thought about Efron having that in him for how long he has been in the biz.

Perfectionist said...

Robert: I have never seen that Ted Bundy thing, that Efron did, but I did see praise for his work there, so I expected him to give a proper turn somewhere down the line. As a pro wrestling fan, I am glad to learn that he is great in this and the film's brilliant too.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What are your 10 favourite Ebert quotes from At The Movies.

Mitchell Murray said...

I'll admit Efron has generally been an actor I've thought of as "good enough". As in, he's been decent in a number of projects, but I've never truly felt he was great in a performance. From the sounds of it, though, it seems "Iron Claw" might have a similar affect on this blog to what "Spencer" did for Kristen Stewart.

Also, random holiday viewing note - rewatched "A Christmas Story" last night.

We are so god damn lucky Nicholson wasn't chosen for the old man, and Darren McGavin got to give such a wonderful performance.

Oliver Menard said...

1. Dutt
2. Bogosian
3. Orser
4. Fishburne
5. Dano

RatedRStar said...

Zac Efron can easily be placed in similar categories as Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, actors who were in successful productions financially but were in films that were hated by most but then showed promise in serious films, I think its just taken Zac a little longer to get into that serious actor mold.

Zac Efron is the same age as when Jim Carrey went into serious territory with The Truman Show.

RatedRStar said...

1. Dutt
2. Bogosian
3. Orser
4. Fishburne
5. Dano

Louis Morgan said...

With Wonka it went in and out of twee overload, I did enjoy this more than enough. I think if it had managed to naturally bring just a little bitterness and darkness within the narrative, as found in the original film, I do think it would've taken the whole enterprise a little further. As it stands, most everything in general is pleasant, if not overly memorable, particularly the songs, except of course the two classic songs, which that contrast is perhaps very emblematic if one compares both films. Regardless, while this won't be a classic anytime soon, it's certainly nice enough time on its own.

Chalamet - 3.5
Lane - 3.5
Key - 2.5
Joseph - 3.5
Lucas - 1.5
Baynton - 1.5
Hawkins - 3
Atkinson - 3
Carter - 3
Colman - 3.5
Davis - 3.5
Farnaby - 3
Grant - 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cast.

Mitchell Murray said...

RatedRStar: Pretty much. I think Efron has also struggled a bit with being "taken seriously", since he's had such a youthful appearence for most of his life, and so many people STILL see him as the HSM guy. That probably influenced his recent body transformations for "Baywatch" and "Iron Claw", as well as whatever changed with his face 1-2 years ago (be it cosmetic surgery, injury or something else).

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Well I entirely agree with his view of Dead Poets Society, and he articulates it extremely well. One from the derivative nature of the story, the fact that Keating is just an idea of a character rather a true person (and also Williams fluctuating between playing it straight then the scene of Williams Schtick that shouldn't be in the film), but even more so the fact that the film doesn't really dive deep into the nature of the specifics of anything regarding poetry other than extremely generalized form.
Speaking of another against the grain opinion review that I also agree with, with Fight Club, and a lesser critic would probably accuse it of the fascistic bent without recognizing that the film is meant to be a critique as such. What Ebert does successfully in my mind is articulate why the film fails to do that successfully, for which I would agree.

Luke:

Hopkins brings a modicum of gravitas, even if it still seems like he probably recorded his lines like Krusty the clown. Hounsou and Bae are higher really only because they have stronger innate presences as performers. Hunnam, who I can like, goes into his worst traits. Boutella isn't really leading material, as she's quite dull, Skrein is doing the same thing as Deadpool but without the humor, Huisman fails at emotion again, the lesser knowns are all extremely dull and stitled, especially Coleman who has just an atrocious line reading that stands out because of how bad it is.

White - (An effective performance in creating sort of the rival type brother who often is a bit more withdrawn and seems singularly focused around his father's words. White brings his expected quiet intensity, but this isn't at all Carmy. He brings instead the immediate emotional distress of someone constantly trying to prove something yet he fails to do so every time in his own mind.)

Dickinson - (A performance that feels incomplete, and that's a compliment. Because really what he does is provide basically the glue in a lot of the brother scenes. There's such a generous warmth he brings and just exudes that sense of connection. He brings this natural sense of loving humor to the part and you always are granted that sense of the real care he has for all of his brothers. He makes David seem essential to the group, which makes the tragedy all the greater. Also it must be said delivers on the wrestling promo with the right over the top gusto and command.)

Tierney - (A performance that very much is set up as that of a kind of silent complicity, though not at all able to shed the indications of the heartbreak in any way, and brings within her performance each time this greater sense of sort of hollow break.)

Simons - (Moving portrayal via contrasts of his early scenes where he brings an outgoing but goofy energy as the other brother, and that is against the man essentially broken by his experience in the wrestling ring. Bringing this quiet sadness that is painful by comparing to what we see of him earlier.)

James - (Liked the warmth she brought in general, overshadowed a bit but what I think she did do, more or less worked for me.)

Chalamet - (This performance was representative of the film itself, where he fell between moments where his performance completely did work for me in selling the wonder, but then other moments it felt like he was trying to "Sell" the wonder to me. It was a little weird because he would bounce in and out of being convincing in a way that isn't common in performances. But I'd say the non-sells were more the exceptions than the rules, where I did think his earnestness worked. And while I wish the Wonka had some sardonic power of the Wilder take, I'll accept that's a problem with the script/direction, as clearly that was never the intention.)

Louis Morgan said...

Lane - 3.5(Less interesting role, and less challenging, in a way but certainly sells the earnestness needed, and I would say in that sense is more convincing, though she gets to in general play a more subdued note that probably helped.)

Key - (Full length sketch performance, that I found mildly amusing but not amusing enough.)

Joseph - (He was more so on to something, though I do think John Vernon's work in Animal House needs to be taught in acting schools in order for more to go all the way. Joseph doesn't go the intense route, but he does own the sort of evil of the character in a way that I found somewhat entertaining. Again I think he could've gone even further but I more or less liked what he did.)

Lucas & Bayton - (They perhaps hold back Joseph because their bits are immediately tiresome, and just found them a bit grating to listen to.)

Hawkins - (Quick bit of effective earnestness.)

Atkinson - (Honestly think he should've been one of the owners, as I think he could've been better served, but enjoyed his quick bit regardless.)

Carter - (Great voice work more than anything, but brings this sort of sincerity in his conviction.)

Colman & Davis - (Bits that would've worked in Paddington as well, and I think could've been potential Paddington 3 ideas to be perfectly honest, as I could've easily seen Paddington being in this situation. And they work in Colman going grotesque in a fun way Dahl wretched woman way, along with Davis doing it as the brute man, but both being the right kind of silly at the same time.)

Farnaby - (Enjoyable quick bit once again with King.)

Grant - (I mean the idea was more than enough in itself, but his very serious minded delivery is what really does sell it.)

Tony:

Jones - 3.5(I mean I will always take the random worldly character actor from Scorsese, who is always great in peppering someone in as such. And Jones is very effective in the scene in coming in with this kind of folksy manner of playing the friendly cowboy in a way, but throughout the scene bringing this quiet incisiveness that only becomes more intense as they continue their conversation. Particularly his final message which is a direct threat, delivered with an absolute ease and confidence of someone who doesn't need to worry no matter who the mobster may be.)

Well indeed, as the conversation again isn't cultivated in two ways. One Roeper's points are rote at best, but more so he never really challenged Ebert's views he more of just made a joke on them if even that, as that's the case there. If Siskel didn't like the film he'd call him out and try to cut it to the quick, compare it to the Kansas City review, also an Altman film, by comparison where Ebert also was a big fan, and Siskel wasn't having it. And you see him go for it in the conversation based on actual elements of the film, unlike Roeper who barely really truly talks about the film, frankly talks more about the radio show.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, belated viewing note - I FINALLY watched "Elvis" after putting it off for so long. It was more or less what I expected.

The first half is a lot of Luhrmann's usual frenzied direction, which I've always found annoying. The second half is better on that front, but still simplistic with how much it explores Elvis' perspective, and his place within civil rights history. More than anything, I found it's framing of Colonel Parker highly questionable, with Hanks doing himself no favours.

But I'll be damned...Butler lived up to the hype. Terrific emodiment of Elvis, and despite everything else holding him back, he always felt genuine and natural in the role. It's a prime example of the right actor, in the right role, but in the wrong film.

RatedRStar said...

Paterson Joseph is so good in the UK comedy classic Peep Show as Alan Johnson, its actually shocking to see him in a Hollywood Movie let along be good in it lol.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes in terms of acting https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U79Uy_o9HmE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PNQs8uUXZQM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SOHhBg_qGk

Matthew Montada said...

Absolutely loved, loved, LOOOVVVEEEEDDD Poor Things. Do expect this to be in my top 2 movies of the year.

Letterboxd Review: https://boxd.it/5nSJaZ

Emma Stone - 5
Mark Ruffalo - 5
Willem Dafoe - 5
Ramy Youssef - 4.5
Jerrod Carmichael - 3.5
Christopher Abbott - 4
Kathryn Hunter - 4.5
Margaret Qualley - 3.5
Suzy Bemba - 4
Hanna Schygulla - 4
Vicki Pepperdine - 3.5

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this video clip where Yoshitaka Yoda, Machiko Kyo and Kinuyo Tanaka talk about Ugetsu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAMlro83idI

Razor said...

Louis: Thoughts on Brian George in Seinfeld?

Luke Higham said...

Merry Christmas Everyone.

Tony Kim said...

Happy holidays to all who celebrate.

Louis: As I recently finished Frasier S1 for the first time (having already seen multiple episodes beforehand through syndication), could I get your thoughts on the season, and your top 10 episodes from it?

Emi Grant said...

Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone in the blog.

I watched The Holdovers, and even though I found more than a couple of scenes on the first act to be grating and the pace to be a bit too meandering for my liking, I'll admit it won me over by the end. Though definitely not on masterpiece level, it's a nice enough Christmas companion.

Giamatti: 5 (It SHOULD be Cillian, but if he were to win, it'd be a shot in the fleshy part of the thigh, as opposed to the gunshot wounds of DiCaprio and Cooper)
Randolph: 4.5
Sessa: 4/4.5 (Brilliant? Idk, but he has lot of potential. He has more than a couple of stilted moments, but he nails every single emotional beat once the first act is over)
Preston: 3.5
Hepner: 2.5
Dolley: 2.5
Kaplan: 3.5
Garcia: 3

Jonathan Williams said...

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Merry Christmas everyone!

I opted to celebrate in the most fitting way for me: by watching Merry Little Batman. Overall it's an alright, fun little holiday romp, even if I was a bit mixed on the artstyle (Alfred and the villains look borderline hideous).

Kibreab-3.5
Wilson-2.5/3 (fine in his emotional moments and good during the AI parts, but I just kept hearing Luke Wilson, not Batman)
Cromwell-3
Hornsby-3
George-3

RatedRStar said...

Merry Christmas everyone!

Tim said...

Merry Christmas and few Bah Humbugs to all!

BRAZINTERMA said...

Merry Christmas everyone!
I hope 2023 was a good year for all of you.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Emi: Funny, Sessa would be the only one I’d give a 5 to in it.

Matthew Montada said...

Merry Christmas everybody!

Anonymous said...

Luke, about that animated films list that you've been working on or completed. Could you list the films that you think are essential for Louis to watch.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Luke Higham said...

The Adventures Of Prince Achmed (1926)
The Tale Of The Fox (1937)
The Snow Queen (1957)
The White Snake Enchantress (1958)
A Midsummer Night’s Dream (1959)
The Wild Swans (1962)
The Little Prince And The Eight-Headed Dragon (1963)
West And Soda (1965)
Asterix - Asterix And Cleopatra (1968), The Twelve Tasks Of Asterix (1976)
Isao Takahata - The Great Adventure Of Horus, Prince Of The Sun (1968), Panda! Go, Panda! (1972), Jarinko Chie (1981), Gauche The Cellist (1982), Pom Poko (1994), My Neighbors The Yamadas (1999)
Yellow Submarine (1968)
Flying Phantom Ship (1969)
Disney - The Aristocats (1970), The Little Mermaid (1989), Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001), Lilo & Stitch (2002), Treasure Planet (2002), Brother Bear (2003), Winnie The Pooh (2011), Wreck-It-Ralph (2012)
Ralph Bakshi - Fritz The Cat (1972), Heavy Traffic (1973), Coonskin (1975), Wizards (1977), American Pop (1981)
Belladonna Of Sadness (1973)
Fantastic Planet (1974)
The Pinchcliffe Grand Prix (1975)
Allegro Non Troppo (1976)
Hayao Miyazaki - The Castle Of Cagliostro (1979), Castle In The Sky (1986), Kiki's Delivery Service (1989), Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
The King And The Mockingbird (1980)
The Mystery Of The Third Planet (1981)
The Last Unicorn (1982)
Barefoot Gen 1 and 2 (1983/86)
The Adventures Of Mark Twain (1985)
Mamoru Oshii - Angel's Egg (1985), Ghost In The Shell (1995), Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence (2004), The Sky Crawlers (2008)
Don Bluth - An American Tail (1986), All Dogs Go To Heaven (1989), Titan A.E. (2000)
The Brave Little Toaster (1987)
Neo Tokyo (1987)
Royal Space Force: The Wings Of Honnêamise (1987)
Alice (1988)
The BFG (1989)
The Journey To Melonia (1989)
Little Nemo: Adventures In Slumberland (1989)
Marquis (1989)
Roujin Z (1991)
The Thief And The Cobbler (1993)
Felidae (1994)
Balto (1995)
Beavis And Butt-Head Do America (1996)
James And The Giant Peach (1996)
Cats Don't Dance (1997)
The End Of Evangelion (1997)
Sylvain Chomet - The Old Lady And The Pigeons (1997), The Triplets Of Belleville (2003), The Illusionist (2010)
Kirikou And The Sorceress (1998)
Quest Of Camelot (1998)
Scooby-Doo On Zombie Island (1998)
Hiroyuki Okiura - Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade (1999), A Letter To Momo (2011)
The Miracle Maker (1999)
Dreamworks - The Road To El Dorado (2000), Sinbad: Legend Of The Seven Seas (2003), Shrek 2 (2004), Megamind (2010), Puss In Boots (2011), Rise Of The Guardians (2012), The Bad Guys (2022)
Metropolis (2001)
Satoshi Kon - Millenium Actress (2001), Tokyo Godfathers (2003), Paranoia Agent (2004), Paprika (2006)
Waking Life (2001)
The Cat Returns (2002)

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Aardman - Flushed Away (2006), Arthur Christmas (2011), The Pirates! In An Adventure With Scientists! (2012), Shaun The Sheep Movie (2015), Early Man (2018), A Shaun The Sheep Movie: Farmageddon (2019)
Mamoru Hosoda - The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (2006) Summer Wars (2009), The Boy And The Beast (2015)
Happy Feet (2006)
Monster House (2006)
Tales From Earthsea (2006)
Beowulf (2007)
Death Note (2007)
Sita Sings The Blues (2008)
9 (2009)
Redline (2009)
A Town Called Panic (2009)
Arrietty (2010)
A Cat In Paris (2010)
Chico And Rita (2010)
Colorful (2010)
My Dog Tulip (2010)
Alois Nebel (2011)
From Up On Poppy Hill (2011)
The King Of Pigs (2011)
A Monster In Paris (2011)
The Painting (2011)
The Rabbi's Cat (2011)
The Tragedy Of Man (2011)
Ernest & Celestine/Ernest & Celestine: A Trip To Gibberitia (2012/22)
Frankenweenie (2012)
It's Such A Beautiful Day (2012)
Laika - ParaNorman (2012), The Boxtrolls (2014)
Wrinkles (2012)
The Fake (2013)
The Book Of Life (2014)
Boy And The World (2014)
The Lego Movie (2014)
Over The Garden Wall (2014)
The Anthem Of The Heart (2015)
April And The Extraordinary World (2015)
The Case Of Hana & Alice (2015)
The Little Prince (2015)
Long Way North (2015)
Miss Hokusai (2015)
Phantom Boy (2015)
The Girl Without Hands (2016)
In This Corner Of The World (2016)
My Life As A Courgette (Zucchini) (2016)
The Big Bad Fox And Other Tales… (2017)
Birdboy: The Forgotten Children (2017)
Lu Over The Wall (2017)
Mary And The Witch's Flower (2017)
Liz And The Blue Bird (2018)
Maquia: When The Promised Flower Blooms (2018)
Okko's Inn (2018)
On Happiness Road (2018)
Ruben Brandt, Collector (2018)
Buñuel In The Labyrinth Of The Turtles (2019)
Ride Your Wave (2019)
The Swallows Of Kabul (2019)
Bombay Rose (2020)
Josee, The Tiger And The Fish (2020)
Marona's Fantastic Tale (2020)
On-Gaku: Our Sound (2020)
Over The Moon (2020)
The Crossing (2021)
The Summit Of The Gods (2021)
Apollo 10 1⁄2: A Space Age Childhood (2022)
Charlotte (2022)
Eternal Spring (2022)
The First Slam Dunk (2022)
The House (2022)
Mad God (2022)
My Father's Drsgon (2022)
Little Nicholas: Happy As Can Be (2022)
Titina (2022)
Nimona (2023)
The Peasants (2023)
Robot Dreams (2023)
Unicorn Wars (2023)
The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023)
Wish (2023)

Luke Higham said...

Didn't put Ice Age or Madagascar on the list due to his feelings on 00s CGI films in general and picked films that were at worst interesting failures.

I have included shorts and other mini-series but will save that for another day.

Emi Grant said...

Robert: Really? Could I ask what captivated you the most about his performance?

Matthew Brown said...

Luke: Great list. Interested in Louis's opinion on the majority of those titles.

Luke Higham said...

Matthew: Thanks, the whole list took about 3 months to complete when including short films as well. This is a shorter version and tried to avoid films that I felt Louis would have zero interest in or a waste of time.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Luke: Do you think Barnyard (2006) could also be a good addition to the list? It does kinda fall into the 2000s CGI territory you mentioned, but it contains good performances from Sam Elliott, Kevin James and especially David Koechner, who's treating the whole thing as if he's in a crime thriller film.

Luke Higham said...

Ytrewq: If you hadn't mentioned Koechner from before, Barnyard wouldn't have made the longer version but I'm on the fence in putting it on the shortlist.

Anonymous said...

Luke, what about Bedknobs And Broomsticks (1971).

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: That's going on the 70s Live-Action list. A film like James And The Giant Peach for example is predominantly stop-motion animation even though it has some live-action sequences.

Also, I probably won't post all these lists for at least 2 years because it's a LONG draining process.

Luke Higham said...

And whatever Louis is comfortable with, I'll either email them to him or post on his unused Film Thoughts blog.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of Barfi and where would you rank Chopra and D'Cruz for 2012 Best Actress and Supporting Actress respectively.

Luke Higham said...

*Quest For Camelot
*My Father's Dragon

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Louis: If Napoleon's 4 hour cut is released in March or April, do you still intend to watch it then.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Glad you liked Barfi, your thoughts on the cinematography and the songs you liked?

Anonymous said...

Luke, what do you think will be Louis's final ranking of the Aardman films.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Not counting 2024's Wallace and Gromit sequel.

1. Curse Of The Were Rabbit
2. Shaun The Sheep Movie
3. Chicken Run
4. Arthur Christmas
5. The Pirates
6. Shaun The Sheep: Farmageddon
7. Flushed Away
8. Dawn Of The Nugget
9. Early Man

3.5 and above from Farmageddon upwards.

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: On the note of animation, thoughts on the vocal performances from these animated clips? Rather big spoilers for the last two, btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14BeYDc890&ab_channel=Arudonoa

(Michael Kovach and Xander Mobus)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwhjsKqJ-Uc&ab_channel=FulcrumFanEdits

(Sam Witwer and Ashley Eckstein)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1GTCxjCCG8&ab_channel=AMHarbinger

(Benjamin Byron Davis and Jim Perri)

Luke Higham said...

Witwer can do absolutely no wrong for me. His portrayals of Maul, The Son and Palpatine are all outstanding. I love that scene in particular as he tries to warn the Jedi and Clones of their impending doom as he's had knowledge of Palpatine's master plan since before Episode I but to no avail.

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: Fully agree there. Always loved Witwer's ability to conceal Maul's rage and instability, but only just. That's something he sort of shares with Byron Davis in the below scene, actually.

I also specifically added those voice actors, since I figured those familar with these scenes would recognize them.

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell: Have you seen the Dooku episodes from Tales Of The Jedi (some of Filoni's very best work) and The Bad Batch (I honestly think it's my favourite of the animated shows that have been made so far).

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: I have not, but I've heard good things about the former series especially.

8000S said...

Luke: Nakadai voices the Devil in Belladonna of Sadness.

Ain't that perfect casting?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Ebert and Roeper's review of Freddy Got Fingered.

Luke Higham said...

8000S: Couldn't agree more.

Bryan L. said...

1. Dutt
2. Bogosian
3. Fishburne
4. Orser
5. Dano

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, just rewatched 2019's "Klaus" tonight...

Standard "Liar revealed" scene aside, I adore the film - stylistically, thematically, emotionally and comedically.

And to that last point - damn Norm McDonald was a funny man.

Louis Morgan said...

Regarding the Color Purple I could point out that I still think the often dark subject matter seems ill-fitting to a glossy musical, presented with much gloss, I could say that some of the musical numbers seem like the film wants to rush through them a tad, I could say that during said numbers the camera is a little too found of staying a bit too close up, and certain angles are a bit repetitive. And I just did, but I also must admit I did get emotionally swept up into it regardless, I think the performances do help a great deal in this. And as much as I might still think the approach might seem a little weird again for the material, if I were to say it were ineffective, I would be lying. 

Barrino - 4.5
Henson - 4.5
Brooks - 4.5
Hawkins - 3.5
H.E.R - 3
Bailey - 4
Gossett - 3
Grier - 3
Ellis-Taylor - 3

Michael McCarthy said...

Rating for Mpasi? I went to high school with her, it was pretty surreal seeing her on the big screen in such a high profile role.

Also glad you’re saving Domingo, that’s a hard role to make complex but I thought he did a formidable job with it.

Louis Morgan said...

Michael:

4, I also have to say rather brilliant casting in terms of consistency with Barrino.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: where would you rank Wings in your 1966 list?

Calvin Law said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun

Matt Mustin said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun. Pretty shocked by this actually.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun, suicide note as well, very upsetting.

Matthew Montada said...

R.I.P. Lee Sun-kyun

Emi Grant said...

R.I.P. Lee Sun-Kyun. Deeply upsetting news, he was only 48.

Tony Kim said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun

8000S said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun

Luke Higham said...

RIP Lee Sun-Kyun

Maciej said...

RIP Lee Sun-Kyun

Jonathan Williams said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun

Razor said...

RIP Lee Sun-kyun.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of Amerikatsi. And if you're seeing it today, Ode To My Father.

Louis Morgan said...

American Fiction is a largely successful film even if I think it achieves goodness rather than greatness. Partly this comes from perhaps first time filmmaker aspects in terms of editing that's a touch more languid than is needed or the use of score that doesn't always feel entirely with purpose. More so though it comes from trying to drive down two lanes at once, being a family drama and a biting satire at the same time. The family drama is good if not overly unique at times. The satire though is very funny and quite striking at times, even if it peters out just a bit near the end. I won't say the two sides don't completely cohere, there are some comedic moments within the family drama to kind of ease the transitions, but on the whole the shifts are a little shakier, though not horrendous. And what is in the family drama, isn't poorly done, it is moving at times, and effective. But the two sides don't form a cohesive whole, making the film zig zag a bit, but at least what it's zigzagging towards is never bad, in fact it's always good, just if the transitions were a little smoother, perhaps it could've been entirely great. 

Ross - 3.5
Rae - 3.5
Ortiz - 3.5
Alexander - 4
Uggams - 3.5
Brody - 3
Taylor - 3.5

Louis Morgan said...

With Eileen all the good parts probably could be condensed to a memorable half hour short film, what's left is a lot of mood for the sake of it, a mood I enjoyed, but mood can only do so much. It actually takes a full hour to get into what you'd expect this film to be about, which would be fine if it didn't feel like mostly wheel turning up until that point, which when it gets to that point it's some enjoyable lunacy, though even then wanted far more of it, particularly since the hour setup for that is a bit repetitive and drawn out to say the least.

McKenzie - 4.5
Hathaway - 4
Whigham - 3
Ireland - 4.5

Matt Mustin said...

Yeah, here's the thing about Eileen. I literally just finished the book and I'm puzzled why they made it into a movie at all because so much of the effectiveness of it is the specific way it is written. It felt like the kind of thing that wouldn't work in any way other than something to be read.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me where I can find Louis's thoughts on Huller/the cast of Anatomy of a Fall? Thanks.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: It's on the previous page.

Louis: Thoughts on the Eileen cast.

Louis Morgan said...

I'll get to the thoughts on to the current year performances on the next post.

8000's:

Interesting to see both in an interview, particularly the level of admiration they show towards Mori, with Tanaka's story about Mizoguchi seemingly lighting Mori's cigarette in respect is particularly remarkable, and to be fair that is quite the scene.

Razor:

George gives an enjoyable performance, his second appearance is just fine if not really necessary, however his first is great just for the contrast of his two performances as the overly eager restauranter really wanting to make the most positive impression to the dead eye stare that gives throughout the entirety of the later sequence.

Tony:

Great season in terms of successfully establishing the dynamics between the characters and finding the rhythm quite quickly, with several great episodes, and I would say no bad ones.

1. My Coffee With Niles
2. Miracle on Third or Fourth Street
3. A Mid-Winter's Night Dream
4. Frasier Crane's Day Off
5. Travels With Martin
6. Author Author
7. The Show Where Lilith Comes Back
8. Dinner At Eight
9. Give Him the Chair
10. Beloved Infidel

Luke:

I'll watch it at some point, whenever it comes out.

Both D'Cruz and Chopra are supporting to me.

Kapoor - 4(A charming performance to be sure that goes for the big swings of essentially the Chaplin style romantic, and while I wouldn't quite put him on that level, I will say I did enjoy his overall approach. Bringing the right sort of eagerness to the part, with the right sense of timing, and ability to convey so much in silence, that the performance most certainly worked for me.)

Chopra - 4.5(I'll admit I went in with great trepidation given the nature of the role, and that while I typically like her, I've never though she was more than just "good" in a role. Well I'll say she manages to pull of the supremely difficult which is not to be instantly embarrassing in such a role, but more so than that she manages to actually be convincing, which is particularly difficult. And I'll say her mannerisms manages to actually get beyond the just that and one can actually be convinced by her performance. Which that alone is quite the achievement in itself. But there is more to her work though, as she works wisely within the confines and never betrays them. Presenting the emotions her character does go through as per an honest way as connected to the character's mental state. And she convincingly pulls it off, and while it technically is a certain type of trope, it is kind of the exception that works, in a large part because I always believed her performance, even though I kind of expected not to.)

D'Cruz - 4(The less interesting role of the two main female characters in some ways, but she brings a strong charisma to the role. Brings this sort of innate sense of care and kind of the needed underlying empathy that is well realized to be sure.)

Tahmeed:

The cinematography is gorgeous in terms of really utilizing the width of the screen always in dynamic compositions that are often very creative in the exact choices. But beyond that the lighting and color of the shots is particularly dynamic, with just some absolutely beautiful sweeping shots. Bringing the sort of grandiose romantic quality that definitely worked for the material.