Thursday, 21 September 2023

Alternate Best Actor 1958: Max von Sydow in The Magician

Max von Sydow did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Albert Emanuel Vogler in The Magician. 

The Magician tells the story of a wandering troupe of performers coming under scrutiny under local government as they "perform" for them. 

As with the previous year, Bergman made two very different films, though similar in terms of examining the human condition in 58. Although in Brink of Life where it was modern, intimate and more acting driven, this film is period, plot driven and more expansive in terms of all the side business. I'll say unlike something in the case of Seventh Seal where the side stories eleven the main story, this time I honestly just mostly cared about the central magician and the doctor/minister set to expose him. Von Sydow plays the former in another starring role for Bergman, and for much of the film is a mute representation of the "dark arts", emphasized all the more by a black hair and wig. Von Sydow of course has a great presence which works particularly well when playing a mute role. And there is something to be had in the manner of his performance in the early scenes where he is very arch. He plays up this manner in which he walks, he stares, he looks with a purposeful style, a presentation that is in a way a mix between Boris Karloff's monster and Bela Lugosi's Dracula. His separated fingers are of the master of mesmerism while he stalks around in this strange way as though he is somehow less than the normal human and is a creature of some kind. There is something within this performance that is innately fascinating and Von Sydow plays into that effectively. 

And while I'd never say this film is bad, because it is good as even the stuff I found less compelling certainly wasn't truly dull or poorly written, is that any tension between the central conflict isn't really maintained or built particularly if you say compare the face off between the minister and the magician against the Knight and death. And part of that is perhaps Bergman limits the magician, while also exposing him in a weird way. At first it is all about the mystique, where von Sydow stares his way throughout the performance, being everything some subject wants him to be, and darting some kind of strange hate mixed with anxiety at the minister who never stops prodding him for some kind of truth. But at a certain point we see the magician drop any mystique, when the minister goes after his wife, taking off all his wig and bear, looking like the von Sydow we know, and speaking. And the weird thing is, that it is all done very casually within the narrative, it isn't treated as a big moment, perhaps purposefully, but I'm unsure if it was the best choice to make the audience more than a step ahead. And I do like the shift in von Sydow as he suddenly is very much of a man of it all, his manner straight forward in its emotion, his delivery excessively to the point. Suddenly he becomes a man on a mission but doing it as a professional rather than a mystique. And from that we get an absolutely brilliant scene, where the magician fully goes to "perform" for the doctor, and von Sydow becomes the horror monster again, although now even more intensely. A lot of it is direction, but von Sydow pours intensity and menace into the sequence. Before again segueing to the relaxed notion and showing it all but an act, however a very purposeful act. I like this performance and I like this film, however both I think are limited by the overall approach of the film. A film where the key moments are there, yet everything seems like it should be greater than it is. Regardless it is a good performance by von Sydow, even if like much of his early work with Bergman, seems like he's warming up for the greater work later in his career.  

102 comments:

Michael McCarthy said...

1. Holoubek
2. Biswas
3. Chahine
4. Cooper
5. Von Sydow

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

I got around to seeing Barbie. It was very enjoyable, though as far as the whole Barbie vs. Oppenheimer "rivalry" is concerned, the latter easily wins.

Robbie-4.5
Gosling-4.5
Liu-3
Ben-Adir-2.5 (overshadowed by Liu when it comes to alternate Kens)
Ferrera-3
Greenblatt-2 (asshole daughter is one of my least favorite types of performances anyway and thanks to Greenblatt this isn't going to change anytime soon)
Cera-3
Perlman-3.5
Mirren-3
Ferrell-2.5 (I didn't hate him, but casting someone who can play menacing authority figures would've been better)

Robert MacFarlane said...

Was I the only one who gave Gosling a 5?

Anonymous said...

Louis: what’s your rating for Tim Curry in Legend?

Also thoughts on the trailer for The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial?

Mitchell Murray said...

Rest in peace Mr Sydow. Even though this seems like a less than amazing performance from him, I always like seeing such a uniquely talented, accomplished and versatile performer covered on this blog.

Also I have a new post on my animation blog, finally. It's been a long week, but I will endeavour to follow up this review with some frequency...you guys will see why.

Bryan L. said...

Robert: From what I can gather and up to this point, yep.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Robert: He's close to a 5 for me, I need a rewatch for some of his moments in the second act to be fully sure.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I’m sorry, but I just don’t get it. This is like if we were in 1988 and I was watching all of you give Kline 4.5’s.

Emi Grant said...

Fwiw, I'm open to seeing what a re-watch does for me with Gosling, but right now I still slightly prefer his turn on The Nice Guys, which is also a 4.5 for me.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Saving Björnstrand.

Thulin - 4(Speaking of aspects the film could've explored more, she is quite captivating as her performance side of things if very much underutilized as such. Then she is of course effective in bringing humanity to the other side. Again though I think we get way too little of her on both notes, though she plays them both effectively as to be expected.)

Ekerot - 3.5(Interesting to see him play such a messy character after playing the subdued and in control Death. Ekerot though is effective in the note of the crazed mess of a man. Again, unfortunately to repeat the statement Bergman gives an interesting note that only goes so far though overall.)

Wifstrand - 3.5(Brings a very expected presence as the old sort traveling "mystique" however effectively so as such.)

Andersson - 3.5(very charming just through her innate impish energy that made me care slightly more about her subplot than I would've had otherwise, which I still thought was getting in the way of what I cared about but she was good as per usual.)

Ekborg - 3(Maybe I'm being mean but I'm not quite sure why Andersson's character was so much into him, as I thought he played it a bit like an Elf and I'm not talking about a Tolkien one. Not that I thought he was bad exactly either though.)

Anonymous:

The Caine Mutiny looks like one for the acting, as Clarke in Ferrer's part is an exciting prospect at the very least, and will perhaps go along nicely with his Oppenheimer performance. Otherwise looks like Friedkin doing something like his 12 Angry Men, which is a remake designed as a revival of good material for performances. From the looks of it though, I do wish he had been able to get Caleb Deschanel like he did for Killer Joe, not that it looks like something like Dead For A Dollar, but it doesn't look like Friedkin's most dynamic film visually, even for his chamber pieces.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: what did you think of Sean Patrick Small and Michael Chiklis in Winning Time? I really liked the focus that they got on the second season

8000S said...

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on Rentaro Mikuni, Sachiko Hidari, Ken Takakura and Junzaburo Ban in A Fugitive from the Past.

Anonymous said...

8000S: https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2023/02/alternate-best-actor-2022-results.html?commentPage=2

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on the production and costume design for Late Autumn, then.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your favourite single-episode performance from each main cast member of Seinfeld (plus Knight and Stiller) and Frasier?

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Your past roles for Ray Wise, Sheryl Lee and Miguel Ferrer?

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your top 10 silent credits sequences on Frasier?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Since you started doing bonus rounds, what have been the biggest "Where the hell did THAT come from?" discoveries? Like, films you barely heard about, but ended up loving.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene from The Godfather Part II?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBJb0ls9PM0&ab_channel=JuanBulbo

Bryan L. said...
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Ytrewq Wertyq said...

To anyone who has watched the requested performances from 2010 or 2012: would any of them make for good backlog reviews?

Luke Higham said...

Ytrewq: I think Moura could do very well but I want it to be reviewed alongside his original performance as many say he's superior in the sequel.

Luke Higham said...

Bryan: Louis already watched Cairo Station. Chahine got a 3.5.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, do you have any interest in seeing The Starling Girl and You Can Live Forever (the latter technically 2022 by your metrics but thought it'd be worth mentioning)?

Bryan L. said...
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Bryan L. said...

Luke: Oops, I definitely missed that. My mistake.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Biswas
2. Holoubek
3. Cooper
4. von Sydow
5. Chahine

Ytrewq Wertyq said...
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Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Tony: Eliza Scanlen is my current Lead Actress win, so I can get behind watching The Starling Girl.

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

Small - (He made a striking if limited impression in season 1 but truly ranaway with what he had in season 2. And just sort of became Bird within the season in a way that was particularly impressive. But what was fascinating was the way we got kind of the image of how Magic sees Bird, as well as Bird on the court, and off the court. Because he was indeed hilarious but also convincing in portraying the intensity of Bird on the court and this almost psychotic like narrow manner in his expressions and bluntness. Small's performance delivers this sort of killer intent, but filtered through the Bird style that was a pitch perfect combination. Having said that, his last scene with his mom, and his whole backstory episode was genuinely great work in showing the man behind the kind of the "myth" that Magic creates. Small brings a simplicity in really the emotional care in his off-the-court version of Bird, and is genuinely moving in the moments of being so sweet to his mother and broken by his father's death. What's particularly great is that Small makes the two sides feel completely honest even as they are so different yet don't feel false to the other.)

Chiklis - (We do get what was his role in season 1 again as the hectoring antagonist towards Buss, where Chiklis is great in bringing that very specific confident bluster of the man who's been a success for so long it is all just part of the routine for him. I love though his final moment with Buss though where he still has this sort of low key venom in his delivery. Chiklis brought this sort of sense of appreciation for the idea of legacy beyond both of them. He was also terrific in his scenes with Small, where he successfully showed a very different side, where the personality is the same but the edges are softened towards a more inspiring sort of talk. Where his attack isn't to attack, it is to try to get the best out of his player. )

8000's:

I mean with Ozu's costumes/production design for most of his modern set films, I would say they are purposefully not overly distinctive, they're just modern Japan at the time, both in terms of where people live and the clothing they wear. Not that they're not choices there, just the choice is believable.

Tony:

Seinfeld: "The Pothole"
Alexander: "The Marine Biologist"
Richards: "The Fire"
Louis-Dreyfus: "The English Patient"
Knight: "The Package"
Stiller: "The Fatigues"

Grammer: "Ham Radio"
Pierce: "Halloween"
Leeves: "Something Borrowed, Someone Blue"
Gilpin: "Voyage of the Damned"
Mahoney: "Bla-Z-Boy"

I'll admit that isn't the best remembered aspect of the show for me.

I mean I'll check those films out at some point.

Louis Morgan said...

Ytrewq:

Wise:

Daniel Webster
Juror 10
Senator Pat Geary

Lee:

Anna/Helen
Laura Manion
Kathie Moffat

Ferrer:

Algernon Moncrieff (American version)
Wells (Absence of Malice)
Chief Inspector Hubbard

Tahmeed:

An absolutely brilliant scene. Where you see Michael in what is his form of power, in the dark room alone, his children uncomfortable and what is love to Michael is personified by Connie in the scene, who gives him the love he seeks. A love defined entirely by his terms, and you see his change in expression in the moment, from before she pledges her love, Pacino is showing some genuine vulnerability in Michael, but once she does, he returns to the state of the controlled Godfather, which for him, isn't the beloved king like Vito, ruling his family through love, rather Michael is demanding love entirely on his terms, and it really isn't love it is subjugation from Connie and only that he will accept. As in turn Fredo doesn't beg for forgiveness and the moment of embrace, there is no real love in Michael's eyes, and the embrace is more like a grip from a condor bringing his prey to be killed, with that look to Neri that is the truth.

Robert:

In The Heat of the Sun
Devils on the Doorstep
Blue Collar
Revanche
The Silent Partner
Seduced and Abandoned

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your top 15 favorite non-Kurosawa Japanese films? (including animated films as well)

8000S said...

Louis: Regarding the hypothetical Kurosawa crime thriller set in Hokkaido, what do you think of it being about discrimination against the Ainu?

Of course, it would not be heavy-handed on its subject like Crash was.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: In addition, what do you think of Ferrer in these present roles?

-Agent Smith
-John Brooder
-Mr. Bruner
-Wolf (Puss in Boots: The Last Wish)

Anonymous said...

Louis, have you ever seen any episodes of these shows?

Homicide: Life on the Street
The Shield
24
Homeland
ER

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nOlyl78ACsQ

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on these Animaniacs bits?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExUjngEXaAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uWW--w4SRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtmdHiCJNY

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5sPnMmLHUI

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys. Talk about your bets on

Louis' Top 5 Best Cinematography:
1. Robert Burks - Vertigo
2. Jerzy Wójcik - Ashes and Diamonds
3. Kazuo Yamasaki - The Hidden Fortress
4. Russell Metty - Touch of Evil
5. Joseph LaShelle - The Long, Hot Summer

Louis' Top 5 Best Score:
1. Bernard Herrmann - Vertigo
2. Henry Mancini - Touch of Evil
3. Jerome Moross - The Big Country
4. Masaru Satō - The Hidden Fortress
5. Dimitri Tiomkin - The Old Man and the Sea

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Do you intend to watch all 4 Henry Sugar shorts in one sitting.

Marcus said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes from the Succession finale?

Kendall 'embraces' Roman
Final argument with Shiv and Roman
The ending

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: A bit off-topic, but exactly how did you watch The Bofors Gun?

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

1. Harakiri
2. The Human Condition III
3. Grave of the Fireflies
4. Spirited Away
5. Ugetsu
6. The Human Condition I
7. Sansho the Bailiff
8. Perfect Blue
9. Late Spring
10. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
11. Late Autumn
12. My Neighbor Totoro
13. The Twilight Samurai
14. The Human Condition II
15. The Wind Rises

8000's:

I mean Kurosawa would cover social issues, but he was never Stanley Kramer about it, and I doubt he would make something quite that direct, though as an allegory, sure.

Ytrewq:

I purely imagine his Smith as one who is roasting humans constantly, and kind of love it.

While he isn't the first I'd envision as a western type, he certainly would have the overall presence for it.

He's a pitch perfect Bruner in every sense, just imagining delivering those lines is hilarious.

Though he didn't have the most interesting lines to say, his work in Mulan proves, unsurprisingly, how well his voice translates to animation, so a big yes as he would just tear through the scenes.

Anonymous:

I've seen some random episodes of 24, like 3. And random parts of some episodes of ER, and haven't seen anything from the rest.

Tony:

The first one I prefer is the original, as I honestly think they stick to the Who for a little too long before getting to Yes, and maybe could've brought in more bands quicker.

The second is great in going all in such an obscure reference, particularly at that time, yet wholly hilarious regardless or not you are aware of the context.

I will say the first guy is perhaps a little too close to the Comic Book Guy, regardless a funny bit particularly the T-Rex being Barney.

Anonymous:

Well I'll say what you do get in the two scenes is really to see how above and beyond Griffith went with his performance, as he delivers in both scenes so much nuance in portraying the insecurities of Silver tied within his sort of rich man's confidence and his vicious ambition. As in the second scene in particular his allusion to his PTSD through his own reaction is honestly great work from him. In contrast, I'd say Kove suffers the most when acting with him, because while in general I do like Kove in the series, Griffith is just on another level and you see the limitation in comparison with the former. And with Griffith always bringing more to Silver than just the complete wack job he was in Karate Kid 3.

Luke:

I don't see why not.

Marcus:

I think the embrace actually might be referencing the just mentioned Godfather II scene where an embrace is actually an attack, although here more quite literally, and in the scene you see how brutal Kendall's ambition truly is and within his "comfort" is his cruelty. And you see the Logan in him in the worst way.

The final argument is brilliant because you see all the kids at their worst, Shiv being petty more so for the sake of Kendall getting it than her really wanting it, Roman saying the most despicable possible thing, and Kendall being completely petulant and unable hide his sense of entitlement to the job the whole time. Being completely unconvincing in the key moment, and in the end resorting to basically the most childish argument he probably took as a kid.

Although Armstrong added some epilogue, you didn't really need it, as you saw it all, Shiv becoming her mother fully in the loveless marriage only to be near power with her acceptance of Tom's hand, Roman just enjoying the bar and Kendall completely lost as he looks out by never being able to fulfill his ambition, nor will he be able to.

Tahmeed:

I believe it was on Youtube at that time.

8000S said...

Louis: So, it seems like Mifune and Mitchum were to do a movie at some point in the 90's, shot in Canada, that wasn't never made.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIMXxW3XMAAuVZZ?format=webp&name=small

Thoughts? I would have preferred seeing them doing a movie at their peak.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Could Mastroianni go up for A Special Day?

Shaggy Rogers said...

RIP David McCallum

Tony Kim said...

Louis, do you have any interest in seeing Mythic Quest or Welcome to Wrexham?

Also, how much have you seen from these shows?

The Boondocks
The Critic
King of the Hill
Beavis and Butt-head
Daria

Bryan L. said...

Tony: He’s definitely seen (at least) some episodes of King of The Hill.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Well given the lack of context in terms of director, probably would not have been a major project for either of them regardless. But I certainly would've liked to have seen them together, and Mitchum would've been a good alternative for Marvin in Hell in the Pacific.

Anonymous:

Probably not.

Tony:

Some I guess.

Have seen some random episodes of the critic, don't really remember them well beyond the Siskel & Ebert one. Have seen all of King of the Hill.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=unxfWJPJF1k https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv1vctjcf0w

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Do you remember that episode of The Critic well enough to give thoughts on it?

Also, thoughts on the Fingernails trailer?

Matt Mustin said...

I watched F9. It's whatever. Better than Hobbs and Shaw, but nowhere near the level of 5, 6, or 7. Didn't get me excited to see Fast X, but I'm sure I will in a few years.

Louis Morgan said...

I found Henry Sugar to be a delightful trifle. Perhaps it is the pacing of the constant narration of the subject worked better for me at this shorter length, or that Anderson's style seems an ideal match for Dahl's aggressively detailed oriented style, regardless I was transfixed by the narration, and the style of the diorama upon diorama here. But perhaps there was a little more even, because as much as that I thought it would be a charming anecdote, within an anecdote within an anecdote, and it was, there was actually something emotional I found within the narrative by the end of it that tied a sweeter bow upon and and made it resonate just a bit more for my liking. Won't say that Anderson should only do shorts from now on, but this short certainly worked for me.

Cumberbatch - 3.5
Fiennes - 3.5
Patel - 3.5
Patel - 3.5
Kingsley - 3.5
Ayoade - 3

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cast.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

At its most enjoyable just for Siskel and Ebert getting to play themselves at take their bickering to ridiculous levels, with a literal fight on the wing of a plane and I appreciated them carrying over their Cop and Half argument into the show via a silly review over the Rain Man sequel Snowman. And just some good bits in there such as the Tim Allen loving Satan audition and the robotic though real William Shatner. I wouldn't say it is an amazing episode by any means, but enjoyable in doing the routine run through of the breakup then reunion via cliches, that artfully the two point out regardless.

Luke:

Cumberbatch - (I mean of course a good voice for monologuing which is used well here, a bit extra though from him in getting to do the minor riffs of disguise which are enjoyable very quick bits, however most of all though I liked his very sincere, and I mean the most sincere of sincere, manner of delivering the character's main change of heart.)

Fiennes - (I mean great to hear him speak regardless, but he has my favorite part, and most emotional part in the film, as the old rough and tumble style police constable that anyone who watched 40's and 50's cinema is well aware of. I quite enjoyed Fiennes bringing him to life with that sort of crusty demeanor, but kind of honest emotion beneath his delivery of the better ways that the titular character could go about his particular endeavor.)

Patel, Kingsley & Ayoade - (Honestly all three are at a similar tempo and requirement of the performance, though the first two have a bit more to do. Enjoyed all of their precision of delivery here though with just a little more in the sense of baffled intrigued from Patel and Kingsley's sort of persistence sense of precise conviction.)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and Thoughts on the cast of Bottoms.

Mitchell Murray said...

...great to hear him (Fiennes) speak regardless...

Given his A-tier voice performance from "The Prince of Egypt", I'm inclined to agree.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your take on the Fingernails trailer?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the following scene from The Departed? Love how Scorsese always makes an exposition scene invigorating to follow (plus Walhberg here).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQEq9nCTD4

Marcus said...

Louis: Your top 10 favorite original film songs of the 2010s?

Perfectionist said...

Regarding Scorsese, I recently learned that he regrets directing Shutter Island. Also, he confirmed it that Gangs Of New York suffered from interferences by Weinstein and almost made him want to quit filmmaking.

Louis Morgan said...

Well was far less taken by The Swan, I REALLY hope Anderson mixes up the narration methods with the last two shorts as I found format now getting a little bit old. Would've preferred something a bit more organic and less artificial, as a boyhood tale, that here I found fully detached and easy to get lost in the narration. Maybe Friend isn't as compelling as Kingsley, Patel, Fiennes and Cumberbatch (somewhat proven by the ending), though more so I think the format was less ideal for this tale. I liked some of the production design though at least.

Friend - 2.5
Fiennes - 3

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Friend and Fiennes.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Michael Gambon

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Michael Gambon

Luke Higham said...

RIP Michael Gambon

Anonymous said...

RIP Michael Gambon

Maciej said...

RIP Michael Gambon

Tim said...

R.I.P. Michael Gambon

Razor said...

RIP Michael Gambon.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: For each of these 3 films, which 3 current day (working) filmmakers would be a great fit for them.

Barry Lyndon
Amadeus
Master And Commander: The Far Side Of The World

Bryan L. said...

Luke: I believe he picked PTA as director for a modern-day version. It’s in the review for Griffin Dunne in After Hours.

Bryan L. said...

For Master and Commander, Nolan, Cuarón or Sam Mendes could be good shouts.

Matt Mustin said...

RIP Sir Michael Gambon.

Anonymous said...

Are there any Gambon performances on film that might be worth a review.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I've heard he's great along with Helen Mirren in The Cook, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover. I've decided that I will request him at a later date. By most accounts, his best work on screen was in The Singing Detective.

Matt Mustin said...

I was gonna say, I think he's almost a guarantee for The Cook, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Adam West was offered the role of James Bond in Diamonds are Forever, but turned it down due to not being British himself. That being said, would you have liked to see him in DaF and the movies of Moore era? IMO that would've been something considering his experience with selling the campy character of series.

Louis Morgan said...

Found the Ratcatcher a bit better. Still find Anderson's method, and devotion to making sure the audience hears almost every bit of Dahl's text, nearly unchanged, in as blunt of a fashion as possible, a mistake. However I enjoyed this one a bit more than The Swan, thanks to at least some character interaction actually being depicted by the actors, being a bit more visually dynamic, particularly in the ending, and also due to Ralph Fiennes getting the titular role.

Fiennes - 3.5
Ayoade - 3
Friend - 2.5

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Edebiri & Sennott - 4(I think both are very talented as comedic actresses and have proven that consistently so far in their breakout so far. And I wouldn't say either role here is terribly deep or interesting for them as written, but rather it is the energy each is able to bring in terms of how dynamic they are. They both have a unique energy as even in the trope of the high school outsider, each are just coming at it their own way regardless.)

Cruz - 3.5(Low key performance that is on the more reserved side, despite the character taking a few ridiculous actions throughout the film, I think she is quite good though regardless in playing down when compared to the slightly more turned up performances around here. I would say maybe it speaks to the unwieldy tone with how absurd some of the things she gets involved with but regardless she's good at finding some balance at least.)

Liu - 3.5(For selling the most sincere portion of the film, I think she delivered those sections well with effective enough chemistry with Edebiri, although it's an aspect of the film that I think could've had a bit more meat to it overall.)

Gerber - 3(Enjoyed some of her essentially side deliveries well enough but not too much beyond that.)

Galitzine - 3.5(Completely ridiculous with how overacted everything he does is, and that's the point. It worked in this instance for me where it was a different way of playing a tired character and managed to be funny in going way too far within the type.)

Lynch - 4(Thought he was consistently hilarious by always being completely out of whack with everything else in a given scene. A completely disjointed performance but works because it completely sells the character as being completely unaware of much of anything.)

Fiennes - (Good bit of narration from the Swan, but fun work as the very Rat like ratcatcher. Everything he does has a great comedic yet intense sneer as he articulates his expertise, to the point I do wish Ayoade would just shut up and let the man work. And nothing against Ayoade, just the use of him by Anderson, where we don't need a description of the Ratcatcher because Fiennes was selling everything himself to begin with. A definite bit of fun from him regardless and may we get more Fiennes Anderson beyond the short format soon.)

Ayoade - (I liked his delivery well enough but there is too much of it. I mean make a film or an audio book.)

Friend - (Liked his delivery and funny voices less, much less. And didn't get much out of his overall performance either.)

Ytrewq:

Given the tonal swerve of the films at that time, it isn't too surprising that they considered him for the role. And if he tweaked his performance I think there was perhaps a path where West could've artfully played up the camp like he did with Batman, though there would've I think needed to be a bit more balanced. Regardless I bet I likely would've found the films far more enjoyable regardless.

Tony:

I like the cast obviously, and it looks like a fun premise, however it slowly looked more rote and less impressive as the trailer went on. I mean all watch regardless though given Buckley is in it.

Bryan:

Proper use of Wahlberg and how to do exposition with style. Particularly love the intro with the interplay between Wahlberg and Baldwin (both in ideal roles for their talents) in essentially being grade A-pricks. But the whole thing is wonderfully acerbic way of setting up the plot, however doing it consistently with the blunt humor and the energetic editing/movements of the direction. Only thing I would say is I've always found the zoom in on Damon as he says the titular line, to be just a tad much.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Regarding that scene, do you have any interpretations on the looks both Wahlberg & Baldwin give Damon after he mentions the anecdote about Kennefick’s?

As in, suspicion that he wistfully remembers South Boston (where Nicholsons’ character is based), just annoyance, or other.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, a bit of a long read but your thoughts on this Scorsese profile? https://www.gq.com/story/martin-scorsese-profile

Louis Morgan said...

I actively disliked The Creator. Anyone who calls it a sci-fi masterpiece needs to either see more sci-fi films or may need to redefine the word masterpiece. What a tiresome film this is, where almost every idea it has is a basic retread of other films, told here in as lifeless of a way as possible. The characters are one note, who are, at best, defined by a quick single line motivation, if even that. The plot is so obvious where of course the humans are the bad ones, in case you didn't see that coming, you might've noticed when in one of their earliest scenes the human allies instantly start threatening a puppy, I mean come on, do better than that screenwriter. But hey I'm sure there's some grey, some nuance with the AI, nah, they're just idealized beatific nonsense. But hey maybe all this would've been okay if I at least cared about the central relationship, which I did not. There's no real chemistry, there's no real developments that aren't just "here's the line to make it meaningful", yet the lines are meaningless with how poorly developed everything here is.

Washington - 2
Voyles - 2
Chan - 2
Watanabe - 2.5
Simpson - 2
Janney - 2
Menchaca - 1.5

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Given that Ellerby never suspects Sullivan, I think his look is more so a "who cares", Wahlberg there is a bit more, and would be fitting the fact that Dignam actively doubts Sullivan in every interaction.

Tony:

Nothing exactly new about Scorsese, though I do love the way his passion is very much film, and not just the process of making them, which in some ways he seems less enthusiastic about sounding almost like a duty in a way, not an annoyance, but rather something he must do and must do right. But he truly always has been a cinephile in the purest sense. I do wish people would stop bugging him about superhero films, let him have his opinion and move on. It is also interesting to see clearly how connected to the last act of The Irishman, though thankfully in a less depressing way as he's not a lonely old man without purpose or achievement.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cast of The Creator?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Washington - (Eh seeing more of him, it appears he might not have much range, beyond the casual cool he pulled off effectively enough in Tenet and Blackkklansman, as the last three films of his I've seen have not been kind to him. When playing the casual cool note, I thought he was fine here, but the overly emotional moments I found him either overcooked or oddly stiff, which is a combination you do not want. Additionally any moments of sort of the fatherly "Lone wolf" manner, I thought he fell extremely short and didn't sense any genuine chemistry there. He does not successfully anchor the film in the least, and it is a weak part in many ways, however he doesn't help things either.)

Voyles - (Meh, very standard and really uninspired "wonder kid" performance.)

Chan - (Sorry is she great in something I haven't seen? Because I find her very stiff in everything I've seen from her, this included.)

Watanabe - (Does bring some gravitas even in a very tired role, but he can only do so much.)

Simpson - (Uh, like could they get someone with a least a little charisma? Extremely dull, stiff in the emotional moments, and just doesn't bring anything to make at least something out of this lifeless part.)

Janney - (It's an atrocious part with the "I'm Evil" writing behind everything, however even so I really didn't think Janney brought anything here other than slightly callous deliveries that went particularly dynamic and just got repetitive fast.)

Menchaca - (Speaking of "I'm Evil" instantly, tiresome, but worse because of his terribly sold "funny" lines that were just baffling as delivered, but also as written/filmed. He just plays into the "I'm the villain" in a way that is neither menacing or entertaining.)

Matt Mustin said...

Yeahhhhh I'm thinking maybe we were too quick with the praise on Washington.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I wasn't, I thought he was just sort of okay in BlackKklansman. I was just being polite by not saying anything.

Louis Morgan said...

Poison ends Anderson's Dahl shorts on a high note. The thriller nature of the story I think makes the rapid fire narration fit better. Again we actually get character interaction here, that actually builds emotional stakes and creates a needed sense of suspense. And Anderson has some nice touches here beyond the expected ones, keeping the innate qualities of the story alive and more importantly amplified.

Cumberbatch - 3.5
Patel - 3.5
Kingsley - 3.5
Fiennes - 3

All in all though it's a good thing they were separated as shorts as feature together the nature of them would've been intolerable. And while I liked 3 out of 4 of them to at least some degree, I think it still suggests, for me, that Anderson is perhaps getting a bit too comfortable with idiosyncratic form.

RatedRStar said...

I can remember being shocked that Washington managed to come so close to an Oscar nomination because I don't think anyone would truly think his performance in BlackKKlansman was even an Oscar baity performance let alone this stand out work that would get recognised.

RatedRStar said...

I agree with you BTW on Gemma Chan, like I don't get it at all, even in her appearance in Sherlock she was dull and lifeless, I feel like her acting style is trying to be subtle but I dont think its working.

Bryan L. said...

RatedRStar: It seemed like he was just riding the heat that Blackkklansman was on during pre-nomination time, and the fifth spot did seem to be up for grabs. Remember, Dafoe was the sole representative for his film.

RatedRStar said...

Actually, I liked her in Leading Lady Parts, the comedy short, everyone was fun in that lol.

Bryan L. said...

Also, I think Gareth Edwards might just be better suited as a straight-up director or a “visual effects” guy. Any praise I’ve heard about Monsters has more to do with the aesthetic rather than the actual story, and it is telling that they had to bring in some heavyweights to shore up Rogue One.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on Cranston, Keaton, Kind, and Williams' acting here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHii-R0REzQ

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I've discovered that The Criminal Code premiered on New Year's Eve, 1930.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these interviews with Tatsuya Nakadai and Masaki Kobayashi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUKjJpM9Fgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL3R_K7X3k0

Michael McCarthy said...

Louis: If you haven’t posted them before, could I get your 11-20 films of 2000 and 1988?

Mitchell Murray said...

Hey everyone! Just wanted to say my first blog post of october has been published. I'm currently 7/10 episodes for "My Adventures with Superman", and watching it again has really solidified my thoughts/enjoyment of the series.

Animation related question as well: What are some of the most impressive fight sequences you've seen in an animated property (game, show, film, etc..)?

I've always really liked Batman's fight with the mutant leader in "The Dark Knight Returns: Part 1"; Excellent portrayal of his hand to hand skill and strategy. For more visual/flashy sequences, "Puss in Boots: 2" and "Dragon Ball Super: Broly" come to mind.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: I don't watch as many animated shows as I used to, but off the top of my head, these are a few of my favorite fights:

Goku vs Frieza - Dragon Ball Z
Endeavour vs Nomu - My Hero Academia
Scar vs King Bradley - Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Levi, Erwin and the Survey Corp vs the Beast Titan - Attack on Titan
Josuke, Jotaro, and an Ambulance vs Kira - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Cumberbatch - (Terrific stiff acting from him in selling the point of it all brilliantly in his face, and I think manages to artfully balance between kind of a comical stiffness while being genuinely horrified in the state. Additionally as sudden as it is, he sells the ending well as the character takes his unfortunate turn.)

Patel - (Again liked his narration more so than some others, however here also brings a great sense of concerned intensity through every reaction and every motion, creating a sense of empathy.)

Kingsley - (Brings a quiet dignity but also the right low key kind of determined intensity of the man attempting to be so careful in doing the right thing to clear up the issue.)

Fiennes - (Again just a bit of narration but always enjoyed.)

I will need a newspaper citation that says it was more than the premiere or "no dice". As I can't help but feel these new imdb dates are designed solely to mess with me.

Tony:

Cranston I'd say is the best who plays quite effectively the two sides between the darker shades when he is selling OxyContin and then in the court where he puts on the facade of slight confusion and the slight attempt at attempting to explain himself. He naturally is the most nefarious by convincingly putting on the act, even with cracks, and alluding to the darkest sides.

Keaton is also good, however he kind of blends his performance into a singular state of a slightly callous man no matter the situation, not really hiding his disdain even through a facade and being just kind of casually calm with his lying as something he's comfortable with showing. Also quite good, though if I were casting, I'd go with Cranston's take.

Kind I think is way too over the top, even when delivering the ridiculous testimony, he actually I think over does it, particularly compared to the others.

Williams is kind of doing what Cranston did with the different sides, but far more overt in his extremes of being completely just kind of nearly buffoonish in his bad answers, then being pure evil in his delivery of the "sell". It is effective enough, but I think Cranston did the idea better.

8000's:

Interesting to be reminded of the fact that it was against type for Nakadai to play the part, that seems such an ideal fit for him now in retrospect. And just how physical the part I suppose should be obvious from seeing the film, but it is notable how much of it was done so "practically" and I imagine fairly brutally for the young Nakadai, particularly the final snow pile. And unsurprising I'd say, Kobayashi isn't too different from Kurosawa in his less than empathetic reaction to his actors going through something so severe.

Kobayashi unsurprisingly Kobayashi speaks reflectively on the very practical demands of the shoot, though it is great to hear his specific praise for Miyajima's cinematography as better than he imagined shots or even saw on set. Not surprising to hear the bad reviews, some reviews from 50's and 60's, one ponders what critics even liked at that time with so many classics dismissed at the time. Also having not seen an interview with Kobayashi before, have to say his kind of blunt and rougher manner isn't too surprising given the nature of his films.

Michael:

1988:

11. Cinema Paradiso
12. Scrooged
13. Hanussen
14. School Daze
15. Mississippi Burning
16. Eight Men Out
17. Coming to America
18. Dangerous Liaisons
19. The Naked Gun
20. The Moderns

2000:

11. Gangster No. 1
12. Herod's Law
13. Chicken Run
14. High Fidelity
15. Wonder Boys
16. The Virgin Suicides
17. Almost Famous
18. Traffic
19. George Washington
20. The Patriot