Tuesday, 30 March 2021

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 2020

And the Nominees Were Not:

Ben Mendelsohn in Babyteeth
 
Brian Dennehy in Driveways
 
Hugh Laurie in The Personal History of David Copperfield
 
Nicholas Hoult in True History of the Kelly Gang
 
Mark Rylance in The Trial of the Chicago Seven

74 comments:

Louis Morgan said...

Though given I won't be doing any more years or special reviews after completing this category and after the Oscars...who knows who might show up.

Calvin Law said...

Wait, Louis, you mean after completing this category and before the Oscars, right?

Anyway, I'll go with my own personal ranking of them:

1. Laurie
2. Mendelsohn
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Razor said...

1. Dennehy
2. Mendelsohn
3. Rylance
4. Laurie
5. Hoult

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Yes, though what I really forget was "until" after the Oscars.

Michael McCarthy said...

1. Nicholas Hoult
2. Ben Mendelsohn
3. Hugh Laurie
4. Mark Rylance
5. Brian Dennehy

Calvin Law said...

*breathes sigh of relief*

You definitely deserve a breather after this LONG awards season Louis, so take however long you might need to recuperate. Despite the benefits it’s had to certain films in the extended awards race, I sincerely hope we never have an Oscars in April again.

RatedRStar said...

1. Laurie
2. Mendelsohn
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Louis: The Siskel and Ebert site has been updating quite often in the last month, I'd sip some G&T and chill to that lol.

Anonymous said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance
I predict 5's for Mendelsohn, Laurie, Dennehy and hoult and a 4.5 for Rylance.

Luke Higham said...

God help us all if we have another delayed Oscars.

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Anonymous said...

Could you give your ratings and thoughts on Ben whishaw in personal history of David Copperfield our are you still saving him?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: He's probably saving his thoughts for Laurie's review.

Anonymous said...

Louis: What Jacques Audiard films have you witnessed? And of those, which ones did you enjoy?

Glenn said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

BRAZINTERMA said...

5º Mark Rylance
4º Nicholas Hoult
3º Ben Mendelsohn
2º Brian Dennehey
1º Hugh Laurie

BRAZINTERMA said...

Yesterday I forgot to write in the Mads post, but tell me your TOP 10 of Best Performances of Alcoholics or Drunks:

10º Bradley Cooper - A Star is Born
9º Jack Nicholson - Ironweed
8º Nicolas Cage - Leaving Las Vegas
7º Elizabeth Taylor - Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
6º Richard Burton - Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
5º Donald Pleasence - Wake in Fright
4º Jack Lemmon - Days of Wine and Roses
3º Takashi Shimura - Drunken Angel
2º Mads Mikkelsen - Another Round
1º Ray Milland - The Lost Weekend

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Yeah, I have no idea, so:

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Thomas said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Rylance
5. Hoult

Anonymous said...

Louis: I asked this on the last post but it was never answered so:
What is your reasoning for Clarke peters being co-lead in da 5 bloods?

David Jones said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Tim said...

your 50s and 60s cast and director for Schindler's List?

Psifonian said...

1. Rylance
2. Mendelsohn
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Laurie

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Maxine Peake in Fanny Lye Deliver'd and Anne Hathaway in The Witches.

Luke Higham said...

And Tessa Thompson in Sylvie's Love.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis, your 50s cast for Gangster No 1?

Anonymous said...

Louis: could you add the First Cow leads to your overall

Thomas said...

Louis: If the 80s are coming after the Oscars, can you cover 86 next.

Emi Grant said...

This is probably is gonna be so off, but I'll try.

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Rylance
4. Dennehey
5. Hoult

Anonymous said...

Louis: Also not in the lead ranking is Costner in Let Him Go, Tom Holland in The Devil All the Time and Daniel Radcliffe and Webber in Escape from Pretoria.

Anonymous said...

I am honestly baffled at how many people are saying "promising young woman sucked because it is sexist to men" even though the movie is not about that.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If you've seen it, thoughts on Blackadder The Third and the cast.

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Dennehy
3. Laurie
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Anonymous said...

I know I have said this two times already but I cant wait to see which side Louis is on about Nicholas hoult.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Brazinterma:

1. Ray Milland - The Lost Weekend
2. Mads Mikkelsen - Another Round
3. Sam Rockwell - Snow Angels
4. Nicolas Cage - Leaving Las Vegas
5. Jack Lemmon - Days of Wine and Roses
6. David Farrar - The Small Back Room
7. Donald Pleasence - Wake in Fright
8. Gary Poulter - Joe
9. Richard Burton - Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
10. Albert Finney - Under the Volcano

Matthew Brown said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your cast & director for a 1960s Sylvie’s Choice

Matt Mustin said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Rylance
5. Hoult

Stephen Patterson said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Dennehy
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: Well, I assume Louis views Hoult's work positively, he should at least be a 4.5.

John Smith said...

1.Mendhelson
2.Hoult
3.Dennehy
4.Laurie
5.Rylance

Jack Narrator said...

1. Ben Mendelsohn
2. Nicholas Hoult
3. Brian Dennehy
4. Hugh Laurie
5. Mark Rylance

P245RS said...

Louis: Before Holden was cast as Max Schumacher in Network, he turned down the opportunity to play Beale. George C. Scott and Glenn Ford (who lost out to Holden for Schumacher) were also considered for Beale. For the role of Max Schumacher, Chayefsky had Walter Matthau and Gene Hackman in mind. Thoughts? I think Scott and Hackman would have been great as either Hackett or Jensen.

Maciej said...

1.Mendelsohn
2.Laurie
3.Rylance
4.Hoult
5.Dennehy

Anonymous said...

Have you seen County Lines by chance Louis?

Gene said...

Louis: With all the love for Hopkins going around now: How would you rate Emma Thompson and him in Howard's End?

Michael Patison said...

1. Nicholas Hoult
2. Ben Mendelsohn
3. Hugh Laurie
4. Mark Rylance
5. Brian Dennehy

Glenn said...

Luke, since you've requested Clancy Brown in Highlander, your rating and thoughts on him.

Aidan Pittman said...

1. Mendelsohn
2. Dennehy
3. Laurie
4. Hoult
5. Rylance

Mitchell Murray said...

1) Dennehy
2) Mendelsohn
3) Laurie
4) Rylance
5) Hoult (Perhaps more of my own ranking, but I really don't see what's so special about his work here)

Also of note, I'm 4 episodes into "Soul Eater" and already enjoying it. The tone's a little different to what I was expecting, admittedly, but the art style is very appealing.

Luke Higham said...

Glenn: A 4.5. I love Brown's performance to bits. One of my absolute favourite villains from the 80s and some of his lines are just gold to me such as 'Happy Halloween Ladies' or 'It's better to burn out than to fade away'

Louis Morgan said...

Iris:

I have previously covered that, which be around somewhere if you search around using google while searching "actoroscar.blogspot".

Matthew:

Just lead actor at the moment:

1. F. Murray Abraham in Amadeus
2. James Stewart in It’s A Wonderful Life
3. Peter O’Toole in Lawrence of Arabia
4. Gene Hackman in The Conversation
5. Jeremy Irons in Dead Ringers
6. Anthony Hopkins in The Father
7. Richard Farnsworth in The Straight Story
8. Toshiro Mifune in Rashomon
9. Richard Attenborough in 10 Rillington Place
10. Laurence Olivier in the Entertainer

Daniel:

I'll have to check those out, thanks for the heads up.

Anonymous:

I've seen The Beat That My Heart Skipped, Rust and Bone and The Sisters Brothers, I liked all three of them.

Anonymous:

He has 44% screentime, Lindo has 52%, so that puts him a similar ballpark to begin with, and distinctly in the "lead" class unless you go pure ensemble, which I don't think it quite is. Comparatively Jonathan Majors has 33% and almost all his scenes are still related to Lindo in some way. What really makes him co-lead though is how it always goes back to him as the counterpart to Lindo, and he has his own personal story that is entirely separate (though also one of the weaker parts of the film). The final gunfight is from his perspective entirely and basically makes him the hero.

Louis Morgan said...

Tim:

Schindler's List 1950's directed by Stanley Kramer:

Oskar Schindler: Burt Lancaster
Itzhak Stern: Ralph Richardson
Amon Goth: Richard Attenborough

Schindler's List 1960's directed by Elia Kazan:

Oskar Schindler: Jason Robards
Itzhak Stern: Karl Malden
Amon Goth: Peter O'Toole

Luke:

Peake - 4.5(She is the best part of her film, a film that, having watched it twice now, will go down on that Psifonian/Louis disagreement chart. It certainly is trying to go for something unique, but I find plodding and overcooked in its attempt. Peake's performance though is effective in portraying this sort of kind of repression of spirit. This though in basically the inching away from that state to something else. Peake creates the right sort of vivid quality within this struggle, to show the way it kind of pushes and pulls her in these moments. She gives herself to it one second and then pulls back again. She makes it a natural and honest process in creating the character' arc, even if I really didn't care about the film.)

Hathaway - 2(It seems like I should dislike this performance more, but really I don't. She does a pretty obvious routine in both her over the top accent, then her over the top evil witch stuff, but honestly that's the point. She's not entertaining really enough with it, but I didn't find her that grating either. Someone else probably would've been a better fit to the part, an Eva Green for example, but I oddly didn't hate her here.)

Thompson - 3.5(The film falters because it didn't bother to remember that there were good melodramas from the period and bland ones, the script sadly leaves it in the latter. Still Thompsons is game and feels wholly suited to this kind of role. This balancing the charm with enough sense of the pressing drama in moments. I really wish they had a better script, because there are a lot of seeds of an idea here that could've worked.)

Ytrewq Wertyq:

Gangster Old: Alistair Sim
Gangster Young: Dirk Bogarde
Freddie: Tony Britton
Karen: Claire Bloom
Lennie Taylor: Donald Pleasence
Eddie: Ian Hendry

Bryan:

Sylvie's Love Directed by Douglas Sirk:

Sylvie: Dorothy Dandridge
Robert Halloway: Harry Belafonte
Mr. Jay: Juano Hernandez

P245RS:

Holden would not have been ideal for Finch, he was in the better part, Ford I could maybe see as Schumacher but definitely not Beale. Scott I could definitely see pulling Beale off. Matthau would've been different, but I could see it as a return to some of his earlier more serious performances. Hackman seems too young for the part. He would indeed be a great Hackett or Jensen however.

Gene:

I have covered that previously.

Anonymous:

I have not.

Duncan said...

1: Mendelsohn
2: Rylance
3: Dennehy
4: Hoult
5: Laurie

Luke Higham said...

Some good news from the academy. British nominees will have a UK based venue instead of having to travel to the US.

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: Still, they should allow Zoom calls. It's ridiculous that they're not, although it may end up providing a shorter show if nobody's there to give speeches.

Luke Higham said...

Matt: I agree.

Calvin Law said...

Hopkins could make it very high on my all-time Lead Actor list, and having seen Minari multiple times now I really am tempted to put Youn on my top 10 all-time for Supporting Actress. It’s just that kind of performance that carries that extra something personal for me.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, in reference to me starting "Soul Eater", what would everyone's thoughts be on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH6_axM90FM

As with a lot of series I've been checking out, this channel is where I first heard of the series, and I feel it's an expectedly good effort on their part.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Really hoping for a surprise bonus Burnham review

Calvin Law said...

Also with regards to having a London venue...good, but they can still do better. I’m still worried for a lot of the nominees’ safety.

Matt Mustin said...

I feel like I used the wrong word when I said what the Oscars are doing is "ridiculous". I meant to say irresponsible.

Emi Grant said...

I do agree they should allow Zoom, to be honest. That way, instead of cutting off the long speeches with the orchestra like they always do, they can literally just kick the winners out of the call.

Calvin Law said...

Matt: I completely agree although I personally would say they are being kind of ridiculous in their own way, too.

Emi: What I do think needs to be a thing is that every nominee should have the exact same amount of time for a speech, except maybe Best Picture. I hate whenever I see people getting awards for the smaller categories (like the short films, some of the technical categories) having to be cut off VERY early while the big winners get to ramble on a long time. There shouldn't be that hierarchy. In fact, a Hollywood star doesn't need that platform as much as someone who works on the technical categories, or a short filmmaker or documentarian for whom this is probably the best way to get their message out there.

Matt Mustin said...

Calvin: Yeah, it seems like there's actually no time limit at all for the actors now.

I Have Balls said...

1. Dennehy
2. Laurie
3. Hoult
4. Mendelsohn
5. Rylance

Anonymous said...

My ranking supporting actor:

1. Dennehy
2. Laurie
3. Diggs
4. Hoult
5. Raci
6. Mendelsohn
7. Hodge
8. Rylance
9. Groff
10. Jagger

Emi Grant said...

Calvin: I do wholeheartedly agree. Especially when you consider how many of the technical winners tend to be a team of multiple people who all want to get across their words in such limited time.

Such hierarchy of sorts has given us ugly moments like the visual effects team of Life Of Pi getting silenced right when they mentioned their studio going bankrupt.

Then again, sometimes it's also done for the sake of the show running in time (which is dumb, considering the amount of unnecessary sketches they have each year), as you can see by Iñarritu getting cut off in his speech after becoming the first Director in over 60 years to win a Directing Oscar in consecutive fashion.

Connor Olen said...

1.) Melndelsohn
2.) Laurie
3.) Dennehy
4.) Hoult
5.) Rylance

Calvin Law said...

Emi: God, don't remind me of that Life of Pi thing. Hollywood hypocrisy at its finest. And yeah the Inarritu one is weird too - not only in consecutive fashion, but how historic it was for a Mexican director to do so as well.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your updated top 25 Anthony Hopkins acting moments?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: If The Mauritanian and Judas & the Black Messiah were films of 2020, what are the ratings of Tahar Rahim, Daniel Kaluuya and Lakeith Stanfield in the overall rank?

Anonymous said...

Shaggy: Louis is till saving Rahim.

Anonymous said...

Shaggy: Louis's overall rank if Judas counted as a 2020 release:
1. Hopkins
2. Lindo
3. Mikkelsen
4. Boseman
5. Ahmed
6. Yeun
7. Jackman
8. Stanfield
9. Kaluuya
10. Oldman
I am not sure about 7 and 8.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

1. "Mommmy" - The Father
2. Interview - The Father
3. "What about me" - The Father
4. Being abused - The Father
5. Opening - The Father
6. Still in my pajamas - The Father
7. "The human intelligence is like peacock feathers" - Westworld
8. Lewis pledges his love - Shadowlands
9. "Who they might be" - Westworld
10. Private moment with Philip - The Lion in Winter
11. Meeting Lecter - Silence of the Lambs
12. Asking a man about a watch - The The Father
13. Something Scandalous - The Remains of the Day
14. Helping Carol - Hearts in Atlantis
15. "Who are you?" - The Father
16. Confession - The Two Popes
17. Seeing the Elephant Man - The Elephant Man
18. At the Bar - The Remains of the Day
19. Corky tries not to use Fats - Magic
20. "Piano doesn't murder the player" - Westworld
21. Lecture breakdown - Shadowlands
22. The truth in the car - The Remains of the Day
23. Seeing the low men - Hearts in Atlantis
24. "Never like to drink alone" - Westworld
25. Final meeting - Silence of the Lambs