Friday, 20 March 2026

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 2004: Al Pacino in The Merchant of Venice

Al Pacino did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Shylock in The Merchant of Venice. 

Merchant of Venice follows theoretical Shakespeare comedic romantic antics while a much darker story is going on in the background. 

This film marks the first and still only full cinematic representation of Al Pacino’s training and passion as a Shakespearean actor. Previously getting a doc with scenes version in his self-directed Looking For Richard, but here we get the full force of Pacino’s Shakespearean powers and he does not disappoint. Although now for the darker elements of the film where essentially Shylock is an antisemitic stereotype of the Jewish moneylender, the villain of the piece who must be dealt with at some time while the rest of the story is going along. This version specifically attempts to rework this idea, something I wouldn’t say works entirely in terms of the film as a singular package, by providing additional historical context and creating a sympathetic background for Shylock. The additional opening scenes were particularly important for Pacino and this depiction of the character, as we see him visually spat upon by Antonio (Jeremy Irons), rather than just referred to, a former Jewish man. Pacino portrays in these silent moments a man quietly giving his devotion to his faith, and taking in the mistreatment from Antonio with grace, yet his eyes are not of a man forgetting the injustice. An idea is to return to where we see Bassanio (Joseph Fiennes) seeking money for a trip, a mutual acquaintance of both men. Pacino thrives with the words of the Bard, with a precision but also an ease. They just flow from him so articulately in a way that speaks to his version of the character of Shylock, finds a certain music to them, but also most importantly makes them comprehensible and captivating. 

Pacino’s performance really is rather remarkable because in this career there became a sort of expected Al Pacino type performance, which weren’t necessarily bad but were part of his later career kind of “star persona” he developed essentially as offshoots of his Oscar winning performance. Pacino in this film however fully evokes classic actor driven Pacino in his realization and real devotion to the part of Shylock. He is dialed in and his delivery of the language is part of that, but a natural tool that is the potent realization of the character of Shylock. A character Pacino realizes far beyond that of just a villain as you could easily argue was the way Shakespeare designed him. Pacino is incredible in the scene of getting Antonio to fund Bassanio with the promise of a “pound of flesh” from Antonio to Shylock if it is not paid. Pacino’s working on multiple levels and very much takes the moment far beyond a villain making a strange request. Rather what Pacino does in his delivery is throw it out as pure business, yet in his eyes and manner there is a decisive pressing of Antonio. Within Pacino’s performance you see his disgust for the man, and the very unusual debt and payoff Pacino issues in his eyes as the challenge from Shylock to see Antonio suffer. Suffer specifically though for the wrongs that the man had inflicted upon him. 

Pacino consistently comes against each scene of his to create an empathetic state for Shylock. We see this as he exists in his home and gives instruction to his daughter Jessica, while essentially trying to defend his Jewish home. A speech that could be of a self-enclosed villain in his place, only concerned about money, yet Pacino finds his own avenue quite notably. Pacino brings this exhaustion in every statement to defend himself and his life. Finding a man burdened by society essentially being against him and just trying to exist within his faith to the extent he can. Pacino grants motivation and life to the character as we follow him into the process of demanding the pound of flesh from Antonio within his monologue for insisting on collecting the debt, a monologue where perhaps you can make the best case for defending Shakespeare’s own work by at least granting some humanity to the character. Pacino more than runs with this amount as he is genuinely heartbreaking in the passion he brings to describe the commonalities between a Jewish person and a Christian. Pacino finding more than just anger towards the notion of othering a Jewish person, as there is the sense of the years of pain in the man, the torture to his soul, and even in his rage, it is a rage filled with real human plight of a man who has been mistreated all his life. It is a stellar moment as Pacino is gripping with every word and is one of the great Shakespearean speeches caught on film and delivered by Pacino. 

In the actual trial to determine the fate of Antonio and whether or not Shylock will receive his pound of flesh, Pacino is amazing. Pacino once more not taking it as a villain, despite the ridiculous violent request of his, yet he manages to bring a specific pent of anger within the scene. An anger that again has the personal disdain for Antonio but within the words of challenge against the city, Pacino’s performance is simply incredible as there is the sense in his man’s eyes his challenge of calling out essentially the injustice of all of society. Pacino is marvelous as in a way giving a greater version of his “you’re out of order” speech, as he calls out the society’s use of slaves with such distinct disdain, and his announcement that his debt is “mine”, isn’t of a man of greed, it is a man filled with dissatisfaction for the world he lives in. Shylock’s demands are stopped by some hidden disguises and logic of a pound of flesh but without blood, and if that were not enough he is also charged with intention to murder. A crime that leads him to lose half of his wealth and almost his life. Shylock is spared these punishments though with the requirement from Antonio that he convert to Christianity. Pacino is heartbreaking his physical work as you see the floor fall beneath his feet, the man barely being able to hold his constitution together, his face filled with such sickening distress, and expresses the violent loss of Shylock's self by forcing him to deny his own religion. Pacino delivers a truly great performance, that is so unique within his filmography. Excelling with Shakespeare, but also within his own work, I'd say the film overall is less successful, in morphing Shylock from a villain to a tragic figure of a man so defeated by the cruel society he lives in that vengeance becomes the only hope he can grasp onto. 

63 comments:

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

The public perception of modern Pacino is just so weird. Sure, he admitted to taking roles solely for money in 2010s and we'll never forget Dunkaccino, but I don't get the notion that he became washed up after the 1990s considering his performance here, The Irishman and his TV work.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast.

Matt Mustin said...

I fundamentally dislike this play, so theres always gonna be a ceiling on how much I like any version of it. But that said, yeah, Pacino is amazing here.

Louis Morgan said...

Regarding the Immortal man, not unlike a season of Peaky Blinders, some moments that are eh, a certain degree of predictability, however also at least one standout sequence, some definite style and Murphy being a sullen badass. Although here compressed to less than two hours, which in some ways is an improvement as we just get to the good stuff, however some moments you do wish had been expanded such as the demise of a certain character, though it sounds like that was sadly necessitated by behind the scenes problems and, the relationship with the son, particularly since Keoghan and Murphy make for a good pair. Then again in the series I often wish they expanded certain moments and dealt with certain deaths a bit more. So basically Peaky let’s get to the bloody point edition.

Though I will note it was disappointing not to see the real immortal man of the series show up, if you’ve seen the series you know who I am talking about. Although on that note, I think this is definitely for show watchers only.

Murphy - 4.5
Ferguson - 2.5
Roth - 3.5
Rundle - 3.5
Keoghan - 4
Graham - 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cast.

Shaggy Rogers said...

WOW! I didn't expect Pacino to come so quickly; I thought he'd leave near the end.

Louis: Well, now we can ask you, if you considered Pacino as the lead, where would he rank in your ranking?

A said...

1. Pacino
2. O'Toole
3. Nolte
4. Hurt
5. Thornton

1. Molina
2. Bright
3. Cort
4. Meadows
5. Wu

A said...

Also, I really enjoyed Project Hail Mary.

Full review: https://letterboxd.com/aoisato/film/project-hail-mary/

Gosling - 4/4.5
Hüller - 4
Ortiz - 3.5/4
Boyce - 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: From the prior post, Robert had the question down as either disappointing or boring so would Beery fit the former sentiment.

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Tony Kim said...

1. Pacino
2. O'Toole
3. Nolte
4. Thornton
5. Hurt

1. Molina
2. Cort
3. Bright
4. Meadows
5. Wu

Harris Marlowe said...
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Harris Marlowe said...

Louis: Aside from Best Actress (where it was probably Byrne), who do you think were the runners-up to the wins for each acting category at the Oscars this year?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Harris: My guess is Chalamet, Skarsgärd or Elordi, and Taylor.

Tim said...
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Bryan L. said...

1. Pacino
2. O'Toole
3. Nolte
4. Thornton
5. Hurt

1. Molina
2. Bright
3. Meadows
4. Cort
5. Wu

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Thoughts on the following casting choices?

Sigourney Weaver as Michelle Fuller
Heath Ledger as The Monster (Frankenstein)
Timothee Chalamet as Sonny Wortzik
Matt Berry as Grocer (Grosse Point Blank)
Paul Mescal as Amsterdam Vallon

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. Pacino
2. O'Toole
3. Nolte
4. Thornton
5. Hurt

1. Molina
2. Bright
3. Cort
4. Meadows
5. Wu

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Now that we're halfway through the 2020s, what are your rankings of the Louis' best picture, directors and actors winners? Mine are:

1. The Banshees of Inisherin
2. I'm Still Here
3. Oppenheimer
4. Licorice Pizza
5. Marty Supreme
6. Another Round

1. Yorgos Lanthimos - Poor Things
2. Steven Spielberg - The Fabelmans
3. Park Chan Wook - No Other Choice
4. Joel Coen - The Tragedy of Macbeth
5. Robert Eggers - Nosferatu
6. Thomas Vinterberg - Another Round

1. Anthony Hopkins - The Father
2. Colin Farrell - The Banshees of Inisherin
3. Lee Byung hun - No Other Choice
4. Cillian Murphy - Oppenheimer
5. Bradley Cooper - Nightmare Alley
6. Adrien Brody - The Brutalist

1. Fernanda Torres - I'm Still Here
2. Emma Stone - Poor Things
3. Cate Blanchett - Tár
4. Rose Byrne - If I Had Legs I'd Kick You
5. Alana Haim - Licorice Pizza
6. Carey Mulligan - Promising Young Woman

1. Ke Huy Quan - Everything Everywhere All At Once
2. Sean Penn - One Battle After Another
3. Clarence Maclin - Sing Sing
4. Ben Mendelsohn - Babyteeth
5. Mark Ruffalo - Poor Things
6. Bradley Cooper - Licorice Pizza

1. Youn Yuh jung - Minari
2. Kerry Condon - The Banshees of Inisherin
3. Kathryn Hunter - The Tragedy of Macbeth
4. Felicity Jones - The Brutalist
5. Son Ye jin - No Other Choice
6. Mia Goth - Infinity Pool

Robert MacFarlane said...

Shaggy:

1. Oppenheimer
2. I'm Still Here
3. Licorice Pizza
4. Another Round
5. Marty Supreme
6. Banshees of Inishiren

1. Spielberg
2. Coen
3. Park
4. Yorgos
5. Vinterberg
6. Eggers

1. Hopkins
2. Brody
3. Murphy
4. Cooper
5. Lee
6. Farrell

1. Blanchett
2. Torres
3. Byrne
4. Mulligan
5. Stone
6. Haim

1. Quan
2. Mendelsohn
3. Penn
4. Ruffalo
5. MAclin
6. Cooper

1. Youn
2. Jones
3. Son
4. Condon
5. Hunter
N/A. Goth

In terms of personal overlap: 1/6 for Picture, 0/6 for Director, 4/6 for Actor, 4/6 for Actress, 2/6 for Supporting Actor, and 4/5 for Supporting Actress (and I could be convinced to switch to Hunter for 2021, to boot).

Tybalt said...

Tybalt
1. Nolte
2. Pacino
3. O'Toole
4. Thornton
5. Hurt

1. Molina
2. Cort
3. Meadows
4. Bright
5. Wu

Anonymous said...

Shaggy:

1. Oppenheimer
2. I'm Still Here
3. Banshees of Inishiren
4. Licorice Pizza
5. Another Round
6. Marty Supreme

1. Spielberg
2. Park
3. Coen
4. Eggers
5. Vinterberg
6. Lanthimos

1. Hopkins
2. Murphy
3. Lee
4. Brody
5. Farrell
6. Cooper

1. Blanchett
2. Torres
3. Byrne
4. Mulligan
5. Haim
6. Stone

1. Penn
2. Quan
3. Mendelsohn
4. Maclin
5. Cooper
6. Ruffalo

1. Youn
2. Jones
3. Condon
4. Son
5. Hunter
6. Goth

Harris Marlowe said...

1. Pacino
2. Nolte
3. O'Toole
4. Thornton
5. Hurt (I kind of think Louis will hate The Village)

1. Molina
2. Bright
3. Cort
4. Meadows
5. Wu

Matt Mustin said...

The thing is though, Hurt is not the reason The Village sucks.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Irons - 3.5(I’m honestly not sure how you pull off this role in a way that would make it work beyond a certain point. What Irons does is deliver his lines well, convey the immediate emotion and have his usual strong presence. In terms of dealing with the less savory qualities, well Irons can’t really because Shakespeare doesn’t view him as such.)

Fiennes - 2.5(His typical not quite all that compelling self. He’s completely fine most of the time but I certainly don’t accept him as a proper lead at any point.)

Collins - 3.5(She’s good in playing the different moments of the part including her pivotal later disguise scenes, but I wouldn’t say she’s great. In that I feel there was an even more dynamic quality in realizing each side to something fairly magnificent. As is she hits the needed marks but doesn’t go above and beyond.)

Everyone else is 2.5 to 3, all fine but don’t really standout.

Murphy - (I mean largely refer to my previous thoughts on his performance as Tommy as in many ways it is a greatest hits version, with just a bit more exasperation to his performance than even is usual for Tommy. He’s very good at bringing out all those qualities and bringing the conviction and devotion you want from him. However there are many moments where you do feel there was an avenue for something truly amazing if they just gave Murphy the route to do so, but too many scenes are quick wrapsups. Having said that makes the most of what he has, particularly his final scene where Murphy absolutely delivers in finding such a specific sort of powerful contentment in the moment.)

Ferguson - (Found her pretty one note in just accented allure and that’s about it. Where there seemed a bit more to explore with creating the dynamic between sort of the belief and the act. Ferguson doesn’t really play either note though giving a strangely simplistic and not always particularly convincing performance quite honestly.)

Roth - (He gives a fine sleazeball routine from him with the right sort of just nasty self-satisfied quality of a particularly despicable sort. Though I do think as the “final boss” for Tommy, and while this is part Roth but more so the writing, the character does leave you a bit wanting.)

Rundle - (Basically full reprise of what she always did in the role and good once again.)

Keoghan - (Brings the right dynamic live wire energy where he gives vibes of Tommy but instead of cynicism expressing a greater nihilism. Being effectively convincing however in portraying the menace needed for the character and channeling the right sort of presumed threat so to speak. Then in the rest of the film which I won’t get into too much detail but I will say Keoghan’s very good in managing to find a flow in the fairly big emotional swings and deliver plenty of raw emotion when needed. Finding a pathway, even if I think a greater screenplay could’ve let him go to the stratosphere.)

Graham - (Doing what is expected of him in this kind of role, and most welcome as such.)

Bryan:

Sigourney Weaver as Michelle Fuller - Ideal icy intensity for the role with potentially the ability to combine the possible real emotion with an alienating distance.

Heath Ledger as The Monster (Frankenstein) - Sadly our game tape still was limited and Joker proved above else that he had so much more, so definitely could’ve seen him go all in, in a rather spectacular fashion.

Timothee Chalamet as Sonny Wortzik - Really as a combination of a different factor, yes in Marty showed he had the scrambled intensity needed, Bones and All the specific penetrating vulnerability at other times.

Matt Berry as Grocer (Grosse Point Blank) - Just hearing his voice talk about the Hitman union alone would make this a big yes.

Paul Mescal as Amsterdam Vallon - Actually Gladiator II gives me pause, where the smoulder turned to whiny and I could potentially see him fall into similar traps as DiCaprio.

Louis Morgan said...

Harris:

Actor: The voters who got Marty Surpreme its nominations I'm sure were still voting for Chalamet, and his presumed frontrunner status I'm sure also gave him enough voters to be #2. Moura and Hawke I don't think were really in true winning contention, particularly since the former's film did not win International feature. And again if DiCaprio was going to win, he should've so to speak given his film won best picture.

Supporting Actor: I think Penn had a commanding lead honestly. Probably not del Toro since Penn surely became the focus for OBAA voters. Elordi I definitely think got votes, as did Lindo (though why not nominate for SAG if voters liked him *that* much), Skarsgård I don't think was in the end a close second since Sentimental Value ended up not being that strong beyond the nominations. But regardless makes enough sense as a #2.

Supporting Actress: Mosaku just by virtue of BAFTA momentum. I'm sure Taylor also got votes, but the Sentimental Value ladies I think were afterthoughts.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Thoughts on this scene from The Bear?
https://youtu.be/IgS9ctsCMt8?si=DWKt5WKi3k05HMGu

Harris Marlowe said...

Louis, your past roles for Sean Penn and Timothee Chalamet?

Tybalt said...

Louis: I've learned Cate Blanchett was set to play Portia in this film before dropping out at the last minute, how do you think she would've played the role?

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: Why did you move Fanny And Alexander and The Night of Varennes to 1981 on your winning requests page?

Luke Higham said...

Lucas: Must've been accidental.

Marcus said...

Louis: What do you think were the decisive factors for MBJ eventually winning Best Actor?

Tim said...

Harris: Alright, John C. McGinley ... where do i begin. His lack of an Emmy win is one of the biggest disappointments in entertainment. His lack of even a nomination is more than disappointing, it's just insulting.

We shall begin with his comedy chops. His ability to rattle on and on for minutes with insane dry wit gives me life, due to his pitch perfect timing and insane creativity. Now, he's not acually the best improviser in the show (that crown belongs to Neil Flynn, no discussion), but he manages to make his giving JD girl's names (apparently he does that in real life too), his repition/stretching of words and of course HUGH JACKMAN! highlights of every episode. I somewhat oddly find him the funniest whenever he's making fun of religion or right-wing politics; odd, given that he is a devout conservative in real life (LITERALLY HOW ARE HIM AND OLIVER STONE FRIENDS?!). Another particular affection of mine is towards him pretending to be silly, girlish or talking with a highpitched voice. Seeing this Über-Macho grinning ear to ear is among the funniest things i've ever seen in my life.

Outside of that, he just naturally commands respect and a little bit of fear by just walking into the room. Even when i was a kid, i recognized a certain magnetic presence with him that just commands authority. He is the kind of actor who simply makes you look at him all the time even when he is just standing silently in the background.
An undercurrent of that is his relationship with Bob. Him and Ken Jenkins make their rivalry insanely entertaining, but through some very patiently spaced out scenes they make their mutual respect and maybe even admiration of later scenes really genuine and earned.

Tim said...

On the other end, there's his relationship with our leads. He is not only an amazing Doctor who clearly loves his job and cares about his patients, but also an amazing mentor that manages to teach them with great patience and not overdone but also not understated pride. Now, l love the scene in My Finale where he talks about his feelings towards JD to death, but i don't actually really need it. I knew all of that anyway, because he makes it naturally shine through.
Now, if you have a dominant macho man who is also supposed to smell like a father figure, it would be natural to simply portray him as "tough love, that the younglings need in order to learn", J. K. Simmons style ; but no, McGinley manages to never link these ideas too much or try to make one the purpose of the other. Nope, he simply is the perfect role model, who on top of that just happens to be a jerk who loves to make fun of everybody. I'm sorry, what is wrong with you if you don't think that's hilarious?

His relationship with Jordan and Jack runs somewhat parralel. Sure, him and Jordan are constantly at each others throats, but they manage to still make their heartfelt scenes earned and they make a surprisingly believable couple. Jack then adds a little bit of humor with Cox failing to make his son as manly as himself, but it's also kind of moving that McGinley shows him opening up and even getting a little silly when he spends time with him.

But this is Scrubs we're talking about, and we are here to cry. And the scenes that make Dr Cox one of my favorite heroes in all of fiction and which put McGinley's performance into the stratosphere are the scenes wherein he fails. There are not many, and McGinley knows that, so he puts in 100 percent to make them hit as hard as humanly possible.
This is My Fallen Idol, this is Ben, it's Laverne in Season 6, good god it's My Last Chance. McGinley gives all these scenes the dramatic weight they need and manages to get me close to tears every single time. He knows how to differentiate Perry during these states enough from his usual persona to really make sure we understand how big these events actually are.

I really need to stop talking right now, as just writing this about him brought up so many memories from so many little moments, all of which i adore, with never a single missed note from McGinley. Just know that nearly every single best episode or moment in the series is such mainly because of him and that he is the best thing about the show 100 percent of the time he's on screen.

A said...

If I Had Legs I'd Kick You was honestly great, even if it kind of just 'ended'.

Full review: https://letterboxd.com/aoisato/film/if-i-had-legs-id-kick-you/

Byrne - 5
O'Brien - 4/4.5
Slater - 3.5/4
Macdonald - 4
Rocky - 3.5/4

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: You watch anymore of Community?

Louis Morgan said...

Just about loved Project Hail Mary as quite the wonderful cinematic experience, charming, fun, at times moving, part buddy movie, part Castaway, part The Martian of course with the problem solving especially, and all those parts work splendidly to just make a film I found consistently enjoyable from start to finish. Even the very minor nitpicks I thought of later, I certainly was not thinking of for a moment while watching the film, which swept me away in the theater, as it seemed to just about everyone else in the best kind of theatrical experience.

Huller - 4
Ortiz - 4
Boyce - 3
Leung - 3
Lee - 3

Calvin Law said...

Glad you dug Project Hail Mary as well and that you're saving Gosling (whose performance and the film as a whole is sitting very well with me).

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

One of the scenes from season 3 that wholly worked and again impressive that McHale could be so casually menacing. Effective though in creating the contrast of Carmy putting so much into the relationship emotionally and of trauma, with White being great in expressing that vulnerability against David who really doesn't care acts as though he slightly remembers him, and just presents really the worst wall of a complete rejection of any notion that he ever did anything wrong.

Harris:

Penn:

Jack D. Ripper
Donald Martin
John J. Macreedy

Chalamet:

Fast Eddie
Harry Fabian
Hazel Motes

Tybalt:

Probably with a greater impact, would've had more innate charisma and I think would've been more dynamic through the different elements.

Lucas:

I honestly have no idea how that occurred.

Marcus:

Popularity of Sinners in general, Jordan being the well liked face of the film and the focal point for acting love thanks to SAG. Although I do think Chalamet winning SAG the previous year might've prevented his win, leading in turn for many voters to just "follow the leader" and vote Jordan, in addition I think Chalamet's personality grating on some did cost him votes, however I don't think it was the sole factor.

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

At episode 14.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: Your past roles for Mark Wahlberg and Mark Ruffalo?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Based on what you've seen of Community, your past and present roles for McHale? His filmography is really depressing, although I'm glad The Bear keeps giving the Community ensemble roles.

Kevin said...

Louis and Calvin: Glad to see both of you thoroughly enjoyed Project Hail Mary too.

Louis: What are your thoughts on Ortiz's vocal work? I am genuinely impressed by how funny he is for the most part, yet also somehow able to convey the emotional moments across so well, all while nailing the artifice of the "AI" voice

Calvin: If you dont mind sharing, where would you personally rank Project Hail Mary amongst Gosling's top performances?

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

Wahlberg:

Hugo Barnstead (The Strawberry Blonde)
Ted Striker
Blake (Glengarry Glen Ross)

Ruffalo:

Sgt. Kinnie (Battleground)
Charley Malloy
Rev. Joshua Duncan Sloan

Tahmeed:

CC Baxter
Juror 7 or 9 (Though I could see him as an alternate 8)

Gil Pender (Midnight in Paris)
What the hell, John Du Pont (Probably would be better than Carrell)

Kevin:

I think Ortiz hits just the right vocal tone for the performance where he still very much is reflecting the computerized nature of the voice, but with just the slight bit of variation. One so it doesn't get boring but two that it does find a way to some emotion. Ends up really becoming endearing and working so naturally that even though his delivery is so specific yet it never feels repetitive or tiresome.

Louis Morgan said...

RIP Valerie Perrine

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Would you say that John Du Pont is the biggest example of unrealized great performance of the 21st century? Hell, I think over time you proposed like 7 other actors who would've been better than Carell.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Valerie Perrine

Louis Morgan said...

Ytrewq:

Yes and it will always stand out to me as that is the one hole that keeps the film from even higher heights.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Valerie Perrine

Bryan L. said...

Ytrewq: James Woods, Ben Mendelsohn, John Heard, Gary Oldman, Bill Nighy, Eric Stoltz, and now Joel McHale.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Bryan: Yeah, exactly. Mendelsohn is probably my favorite, beacuse 1. The resemblance would've been uncanny and 2. It would've been a nice break from being mostly known as that evil guy from Rogue One.

Harris Marlowe said...

Tim: Thanks very much for the write-up you gave on McGinley, a proper tribute to one of the great TV performances.

Tim said...

Bryan: Linus Roach too

Harris: talking about McGinley is always a pleasure

Harris Marlowe said...

Louis: Thoughts on the rest of the Project Hail Mary cast.

Calvin Law said...

Kevin: Honestly, the more I sit with it, probably a top 5 performance of his? Right now I'm leaning towards something like,

1. First Man
2. Drive
3. Half Nelson
4. Blade Runner 2049
5. Project Hail Mary

Calvin Law said...

Louis: thoughts on Robert Montgomery's direction of Ride the Pink Horse? Was honestly very impressed by how assured and atmospheric it was. Also wouldn't mind seeing Thomas Gomez upgraded to a 4.

Razor said...

Louis: Thoughts on Packy Lee in The Immortal Man?

Louis Morgan said...

Harris:

Wait on Huller until a few more have seen it.

Boyce - (Based on this and The Bear he does seem to have a fairly limited range, having said that as kind of a facilitation of what Gosling is doing I did find the exchanges funny regardless even if Boyce delivers them in basically the same largely passive kind of way.)

Leung - (Liked the quiet confidence of essentially his quick bit to make a point.)

Lee - (Really enjoyed his reactions in really his one main scene, and while I wouldn’t say the film had to have more Orion Lee, out of all the things, I certainly would not have minded more Orion Lee. And really the more I think about the film, it goes into “yeah there *could’ve* been that, but it didn’t need that”, because just about everything we get is so great.)

Calvin:

I mean my review as written, Gomez really is a 4.

I haven’t seen the film since I wrote the review but as I recall Montgomery does deliver some impressive work in a time where a lot of the actor/director films could be dull, Montgomery very clearly has an eye. Really a precursor to Sierra Madre, in Montgomery very much emphasizing creating the sense of time and place that very much creates a different perspective in the film noir. And I think while the direct plot elements are more straightforward as directed, it is quite captivating seeing all the life of the world surrounding that noir that Montgomery makes so vivid, with Gomez honestly being a strong example of that.

Razor:

He's good, in a film I'll be honest, unlike Project Hail Mary, the more I'm thinking about it the worse it gets with how many things Knight sloppily handled to create an ending. Anyway, Lee though continues to do what he did in the series which is offering this strange combination yet effective combination between a rough around the edges type however one where he's eyes basically are that of a warm and loving sort. Lee bringing that nicely as the man still subservient to Tommy, yet genuine in his quiet concerns for him.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: Your reasons for Wahlberg's and Ruffalo's past roles?

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

Wahlberg plays two things well, stupid or comic anger. Hugo and Striker would be well suited for the former, and then Blake would work with the latter.

Ruffalo honestly is more so director contingent more than anything and each instance you need a director who either reigns him in or channels him properly. As the greater director usually greater the performance from him, Bong/Mickey 17 being an exception. Those roles just are those I think he *could* work in, Kinnie if he's being direct, Malloy quietly emotional, then Sloan for a bit of that Poor Things insanity hopefully channeled properly.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: What are some other Shakespearean roles that you think Pacino would be a great fit for, starting from his breakout in '72? I definitely think he can pull off King Lear if the opportunity arises.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

70's Pacino: Hamlet, Henry V
80's Pacino: Iago, Macbeth
90's Pacino: Richard III (Obviously), Cassius

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Tahmeed: He's apparently going to do just that in Lear Rex.