Saturday, 21 October 2023

Alternate Best Actor 1958: Toshiro Mifune in The Rickshaw Man

Toshiro Mifune did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Matsugoro the titular character in The Rickshaw Man. 

I guess with Mifune my work is never done, which is fine by me since, as you might've gathered at this point, I'm a big fan. Mifune's performance here is a bit of an oddity, though not that his performance is odd in any way, but it feels wholly different from any other Mifune performance, while being entirely a performance by Mifune. To explain. Mifune is a performer who always physically just exudes some kind of command of some sort, even when unwieldy as in the case of Seven Samurai as the most haphazard warrior there's still such a power to him. Mifune here almost physically seems different from any of his other performances, because what Mifune portrays is kind of normalcy, which is kind of fascinating in itself. Take one of the earliest scenes for Mifune's titular Rickshaw Man faces down a man in a pseudo combat, only resulting in him getting cracked on the head. Mifune's performance doesn't suggest the other man is in any danger either in his badass manner as seen in Yojimbo or his unpredictable threat as seen in Seven Samurai. Rather Mifune doesn't present any kind of threat which weirdly is an accomplishment, and kind of magical. Magical because it speaks to the physicality of such a performer who knows how to turn it on and off. As Mifune here seems so much smaller, for the lack of a better word, and in turn crafts the rickshaw man, who is a rickshaw man. 

And from that point of entry, while Mifune subverts his usually larger than life presence, he is larger than life but in a different way. His life here is rather purely within the personality, rather than through any danger the character may have for others. It is impressive as Mifune manages to be both comedic and earnest in creating this alternative style of his presence that does feel so unique within his filmography. Mifune's expressions are with this innate joy of life, this isn't a guy who is constantly struggling, even though he's a poor rickshaw man. Rather his expression is of someone who is ready to face whatever's coming at him, however as a man who maybe doesn't always have the skills to face off he always has the willingness to do so. As much as Mifune is gotten the better off in the opening scene, there is this sort of resilience that Mifune suggests as the innate state of the man. There is a potent energy within Mifune's performance that just exudes a different kind of toughness that is usually for his characters, yet extremely endearing here. Because it isn't presented as the sort of conviction of the normal kind of man, rather this eccentric nature of someone who just always goes about things his way. There's a wryness that Mifune brings by presenting Matsugoro as someone who finds his way around and in things, his way and almost always with a big smile on his face. 

There's another moment early on where Matsugoro is our Mifune type hero but in a very/ different way for Mifune, where he takes on a snooty opera house by cooking smelly food inside it. Mifune's performance emphasizes this dogged manner but more so the joyful sort of exuberance of the man just going about things his way, in his eccentricity however still as a man who overall is low key, which is juxtaposition that maybe shouldn't work however it does. The overall narrative comes in when the Matsugoro comes across a young boy he helps out and leads to him  being introduced to the boy's wealthier mother (Hideko Takamine) and his ailing, soon to be dead, father, a respected military captain, who previously took a liking to Matsugoro for his blunt and eccentric ways. Mifune is marvelous because what he does immediately is purge even the slightest hint that Matsugoro's intentions are anything but the purest. There is no sense that he's trying to manipulate to improve his plight nor is he trying to con them in his way. Rather Mifune exudes warmth, so much warmth, so much warmth in a way that even Mifune's more loving characters usually doesn't have. And it is impressive because there is such a great deal of comforting manner he brings in his delivery, but you also see the why of his physical presence, that makes Matsugoro "smaller" however in turn seemingly so much more comforting as a stranger just coming in to help. 

And Mifune is just wonderful as we see Matsugoro become closer to the family, bringing this powerful sense of the man just wanting to do what's best for the boy, and acting like the purest of mentors and guardians. Take a scene of just as the boy becomes a singer, Mifune's reaction to the singing is everything. There is such pride, such love, such care to every moment in it. He shows a man who just loves getting to experience being part of the boy's life in the most honest way possible. Every interaction Mifune emphasizes is the spirit of goodness that is Matsugoro's true intentions at every point, and it is hard not to find Mifune endearing in every interaction. He has great chemistry with the boy, where he's not a surrogate father exactly, but rather kind of just this perfect sort of loving uncle. Mifune just charms in every instance and it is something special to see Mifune in these moments where there is no overt dramatic weight as we usually see Mifune in so often. Rather he's just a man loving this simple life and loving this simple relationship. Not that his performance is ever simple, you can take the moment where he reacts just to grief of the man's widow, and in just a quick instance you can see so much empathy in Mifune's eyes, that again reinforces Matsugoro as this masterful portrayal of a truly caring man. 

Where the film probably differs from the expectation, and something that improved for me when I re-watched, therefore already knew the trajectory, is it deals with what is the long haul of the relationship between the rickshaw man and the young boy, when class is an ever present part of society. And we see Mifune age here, and he does so beautifully in his performance, nothing over the top, just a slower manner to the man, and a bit more of this sense of quiet nostalgia. We also see the boy grow up and become a man of society, therefore also all too aware of the expectations of that society which do not consider the relationship between him and the "lowly" Rickshaw man as appropriate. We see Matsugoro still be friendly, and the ever present heart in Mifune's performance as he calls out to the boy, now a man, lovingly as "Sonny", a name now rejected and has his mom tell Matsugoro to stop calling him that. Mifune is heartbreaking in this scene because he has so successfully established the sincerity of Matsugoro that the idea of forcing him to call the boy by his full proper name, you see how much it shatters him. His reaction is devastating in the earnest straightforward quality of the man not only losing that relationship but being treated as though he never had one in the first place. The remainder of the film then is the sad end of the rickshaw man, after he has lost his "usefulness" to the rich family. And Mifune is heart wrenching in showing the slow dissolution of the man, because it is with the old spirit of the man in there still. But what Mifune expresses in his reaction is the contrition of society. When he comes back to the mother, perhaps planning on attempting some kind of romantic overture, Mifune portrays instead a man just filled with anxiety and unable to break the restrictions placed on him by society. Leaving him only as a lonely man being worn away, and his final walk to nothingness, Mifune portrays such a potent tragedy of the man truly being lost and now just an old man fading away to nothingness. This is another great performance by Mifune, which is able to be such a heartwarming portrayal of a loving man, but also the tragic tale of what happens when that love is taken for granted. 

125 comments:

Luke Higham said...

5 #12. I don't think anyone will overtake his record for at least the next 15 years.

Luke Higham said...

Though I expect Jessie Buckley to take the overall record in half the time.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast.

Psifonian said...

Luke: As well she should. Jessie Buckley supremacy! I'll never forgive Alex Garland for squandering Buckley, the great Gayle Rankin and Rory Kinnear so thoroughly.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

His final moments in this are among the best in his career imo, phenomenal performance. I stillwonder what a Kobayashi version of this film would have looked like, as it probably would have delved even deeper into the class dynamics affecting the romance, but what we got here is still very effective.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Matsugoro intervening in the fight, his playing the drums, and also his final scene with Takamine?

8000S said...

He's downright amazing in this movie, but then again, he's always amazing.

Thoughts on the cinematography by Kazuo Yamada, the DP of Samurai Rebellion?

Psifonian said...

Alternative castings for “Killers of the Flower Moon”?

Jesse Plemons as Ernest Burkhart
Q’Orianka Kilcher as Mollie Burkhart
Stephen Root as William Hale

RatedRStar said...

I saw Killers of The Flower Moon, Seems like some pretty divisive reactions on here in regards to Leo lol.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: What did you think of DiCaprio, Gladstone and De Niro.

Matthew Montada said...

RatedRStar: your ratings for the cast?

RatedRStar said...

Luke:

Gladstone: I mean I don't think I can add anymore than what has been said, in summary she is truly great, and probably the best female character ever in a Scorsese film, humble yet nail biting, loving but also so blunt and up front, I actually think she helps Leo in his scenes as there is a most unusual love between them that actually does work, and I think it is this stubborn but fragile love between the rather manipulated Ernest and the smart but helpless Mollie.

De Niro: The performance I was most worried about, since I expected obvious evil but here he does something quite wonderful which is the classic loving fatherly role with intent, I think why is works is that he is so warm and loving in his scenes when interacting with the Osage, when his intentions become clear he still wisely underplays the evil intent making it seem not evil, its great work that I really wasn't expecting.

DiCaprio: Its interesting that no critic aside from this blog has pointed the flaws in his performance in that he is intentionally portraying a pathetic Lenny from Old Mice and Men style character, that of a nice simple man who is manipulated into dirty deeds, I didn't mind most of his mannerisms but some of them go too far, particularly his jaw motion which makes it seems like Al Pacino when he gets punched in The Godfather, however I did think he was very good in his silent moments and in his scenes with Gladstone and De Niro, his final scene I think does end it on quite the high as he attempts to sly his way out for the last time and isn't successful.

RatedRStar said...

I should say I was really looking forward to Brendan Frasers performance from the trailer lol.

Matthew Montada:

DiCaprio - 4/4.5
Gladstone - 5
De Niro- 5
Plemons - 3.5
Cardinal - 3.5
Lithgow - 2.5
Fraser - 1
Myers - 4
Isbell - 3.5
Belleau - 3.5
Cancelmi - 3.5
Shepherd - 3.5
Healy - 3.5

Calvin Law said...

Psifonian: I had the same feeling about Plemons as Burkhart, which would've been more fitting to the film overall.

Tony Kim said...

Been trying to avoid reading too much about Killers before seeing it, and it's been a devil of a time scrolling past all these comments. I feel like Bart in "Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie".

Louis: Your thoughts on the Seinfeld episode The Deal?

Matt Mustin said...

Tony: I was gonna say, like, it JUST came out.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Matt: Your point exactly? Avoiding reviews and discussions before watching a movie to form your own opinions is a common and understandable thing to do.

Matt Mustin said...

Ytrewq: Ok, first of all, CHILL with that attitude. I was agreeing with Tony that it's difficult to avoid discussions when this entire comment section is nothing but, considering it's a new release, it would be cool if not everything was discussed in depth immediately. That's what my point is.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Matt: I've been here for 2 years now and I can say you're the only person who actually needs to chill with that attitude.

Louis Morgan said...

Okay guys let's all just take a moment here. I'll be the first to say those of us who have seen Killers have been a little fast and loose with more spoilery topics myself included, usually we do give a longer grace period. So apologies for that.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I will probably see Killers sometime over the next two weeks (living in an area with just night time showings is less than ideal for this film), but as someone who doesn't mind spoilers for anything, I am curious as to how I'll respond to certain performances/choices.

Matt Mustin said...

I apologize as well, maybe I was in a bad mood today, but I will also say that this is not the first time on here that someone has come after me specifically for reasons I don't understand so I guess I took it a little personally.

Anonymous said...

Tahmeed: Do you watch everything knowing plot synopses beforehand? For a twist-heavy movie, doesn't that ruin part of the experience?

Michael McCarthy said...

I’m so glad you spoke in depth about Mifune’s expression on “That makes us sound like strangers.” That moment BREAKS me.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Anonymous: I have gone into films like Parasite completely blind, because people were right in insisting to me that that was the best way to experience it. I don't actively seek out plot summaries, as much as I do reviews from people whose taste I trust (which includes basically everyone here), and that does involve getting spoiled to some extent. It doesn't ruin the "experience" for me, because often I get a lot more out of a film/performance on the first watch (i.e. everything Cumberbatch does in The Power of the Dog). But I definitely understand why it would ruin it for other people, which is why I try to be vague when discussing new films.

Matt Mustin said...

I re-read Macbeth recently and as I was doing it, I kept picturing the scenes the way Joel Coen realized them in his film, so I think I pretty much have to say that's the definitive version for me.

Robert MacFarlane said...

So I watched Deep Cover, and I think Louis and I might need to have a discussion about Fishburne and Goldblum’s placements one day.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Could you check out Auntie Mame, A Tale Of Two Cities, Summer Clouds, Mädchen In Uniform, One Life (End Of Desire), Anna Lucasta, A Matter Of Dignity, Édes Anna, Shadows, God's Little Acre, The Bravados, The Fly, Stage Struck and Cowboy before you finish 1958.

8000S said...

Luke: He can watch Stakeout, Summer Clouds, and Night Drum here.

https://ok.ru/video/1674078521966
https://ok.ru/video/2393189190254
https://ok.ru/video/2107378764398

All written by Shinobu Hashimoto.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Could you re-watch The Defiant Ones before Lead Actor is finished.

Louis Morgan said...


Luke:

Takamine - 4(Interesting to see her here now, after the first time I watched her I had seen far less of her better known work. And this is very different because she is far more subdued and sort of passive character. She is still ever the dynamic performer in crafting her particular moments of reacting to Mifune's character, where I think she succeeds in creating the right kind of ambiguity in terms of how far the appreciation of his character goes so to speak, while still putting on the overall front of the expected sort of manner of the more well to do mother.)

Akutagawa - 3.5(Makes a strong impact actually in his brief screen time showing the father as very loving and warm despite the nature of his position. Leaving the right impression as the good father and husband, even if in such a brief time.)

Ryu - 3(Largely a functional role though he is good at delivering that function. I do ponder what a scene between him and Mifune would look like if they were more directly interacting however.)

Tahmeed:

A fun scene just to see some of "badass" Mifune, however even this scene doesn't portray him like he would in Yojimbo, Hidden Fortress or even Red Beard. There's more of a fun manner to his fight and kind of an improvisational style he brings that is fitting to how the Rickshaw man would fight. Additionally just a sweet scene in terms of being the paternal figure egging on his "son" before needing to jump in when things get too harsh.

Playing the drums again is great physical acting from Mifune, and a moment of kind of seeing so much of the man's spirit just bluntly for everyone to see. There is so much passion to the act and you really see the ferocious heart of the rickshaw man even as it is on the way to decline.

Louis Morgan said...

The final scene with Takamine is interesting because it is one where you see the societal divide in the scene, that is also personal. As they both speak to one another, but both away from each other as the separation of class is ever present. But there is more where you see Matsugoro go to the father's portrait basically to ask for forgiveness and that even if perhaps the mother had been more open or obvious with her affection towards him, Matsugoro probably still would've not accepted it because of his respect for the father.

8000's:

The cinematography is some beautiful color work throughout. There's a really luscious, vibrancy that I think purposefully makes a more approachable Japan of the period than we often saw in similar films about the period from this time. It uses the color to accentuate a sense of life and comfort to the work. Except for two types of shot. One is the negative style, which wasn't my favorite choice in the film, but the other is the final sequence with Mifune that is gorgeous in the bleakness. The snow is beautifully shot, particularly with a lonely figure among, but also so isolating and desolate at the same time. Beautiful work.

Tony:

Honestly one of the least accurate episodes of Seinfeld in terms of representing the show of what it became and what was. This is a completely different show as a relationship drama, where the whole point is the relationship, rather than the comedy around the relationship. The interactions between Elaine and Jerry really aren't accurate to where the show went, or entirely we're even what we saw before and after this episode. Having said that it isn't a bad episode in terms of itself, but honestly I prefer the more comical show they chose, than the more sort of later Woody Allenish approach you get here. Again it shows maybe they could've been successful if they had taken this approach, but within the overall show, it only exists as it does.

"A lot of flu going around" is the line of the Stella review, though Ebert is correct in his overall point that it is how it is made whether or not it is specifically melodramatic, though it sounds like maybe the "how" wasn't all that good of Stella either.

Men Don't Leave is an interesting flip on Stella conversation where they end up talking about the same thing though now on if one is actually realistic in any way. And having seen neither film, this is one where they kind of convinced me not to really seek out either too strongly.

Now having seen Cobb, a good debate, where Ebert is totally right in this instance in my view, where Siskel is trumpeting the attempted thesis of the film, where Ebert is completely right in that it fails to succeed in having any clear statement along with the Stump character being extremely poorly conceived (though poorly acted also should've been mentioned). The final moment is great final word pettiness on their part and couldn't have been more perfect if it had been written.

8000S said...

Louis: When it came to alternative choices for Lady Washizu, I actually asked your thoughts on the idea of Machiko Kyo playing her, not Kyoko Kagawa. Think she would been great?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I mean that wouldn't be even a leap for her, so obviously should've done well there.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Robby and Miguel's last fight/reconciliation in Cobra Kai season 5?

https://youtu.be/ECHlu1sDNhk?si=y-24TxE3-s5ilhRB

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on "Baseball Bugs" and "Slick Hare".

Michael McCarthy said...

Louis and whoever else this might apply to, does anyone at all have leads where to find Eat Sleep Die (2012) in the U.S.? Can’t find it on streaming anywhere or even find a Region A DVD of it (or any DVD with English subs)

Marcus said...

Michael: Looked for one, but the only copy of it I found was a version with Swedish (?) subtitles on ok.ru.

Emi Grant said...

So, I just re-watched KOTFM with a bunch of friends and it held up pretty well in spite of me being HORRIBLY sleep-deprived (I probably did doze off for 5-ish minutes or so). Anyway, 3 things:

1. Apologies for potentially spoiling a big surprise in my previous comment. I'll not do that again.

2. I'm settling on a 3.5 for Leo. I didn't hate most of his mannerisms for the first 2 thirds of his performance this time around, but it does annoy me to realize the ridiculous potential the role or Ernest Burkhart had that Leo failed to capitalize on.

Again, I chalk it up to a misguided approach and especially being miscast, but we could be talking about a James Stewart in It's a Wonderful Life or a Clark Gable in Gone With The Wind with Ernest Burkhart, but alas we won't.

3. I still don't get why some of you straight-up hated Fraser. I'm not in the "he's great, actually" camp, but I don't think he's *awful* either. He has some line readings that could've used another take or two at worst, imo.

Though, giving it some thought, I would've rather seen Jeff Daniels in that role, even if it would've been common territory for him.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I’m actually kinda agnostic on Fraser. He’s loud, yes, but I wasn’t annoyed. Bemused? A little. But at that point in the movie anyone trying to play it bigger than DiCaprio was going to be a fool’s errand.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: What I am more shocked about Cobb, is that Siskel and Ebert thought he was a lock for a Best Actor nomination when they did their predictions lol despite only receiving one critic nomination.

Louis Morgan said...

Emi Grant:

Well when he only has about two or three line readings total, getting those line readings wrong is a bit of an issue. Also there was absolutely no reason he should've been flaying and yelling them out. There was no reason for him to be a "goofy evil lawyer", and made Ernest seem even dumber than I think was the intention.

RatedRStar:

My best guess is there must've been a lot of preemptive buzz for him like Hugh Jackman in The Son from last year. As Jones was coming off a win (so potential afterglow), it theoretically was a juicy role and while Shelton wasn't an awards darling all his films had been pretty well received up until that point. Although why they were still thinking that by time they did their memo episode, is anyone's guess, whereas their miscalculation on Tim Robbins at least made sense.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Mitchell Murray: Happy birthday!

Luke Higham said...

Happy Birthday Mitchell

Robert MacFarlane said...

Happy birthday Mitchell.

Gothams were announced. McAdams made it in. Let this be the start.

8000S said...

Mitchell: Happy birthday!

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: Happy birthday!

Robert: I'm going to laugh so hard if both she and Gosling are nominated at the same Oscars ceremony.

Louis: Your thoughts on Dennis Boutsikaris, Rex Linn, and Cara Pifko on Better Call Saul?

Louis Morgan said...

Happy birthday Mitchell.

Tahmeed:

A scene that would only work in the show via what they constructed within the universe that is logical in the universe where karate fighting always needs to take place in some way. Fitting though per Johnny's less than ideal way of solving problems fist first, though the scene particularly due to Mariduena's acting that is consistently the best in selling emotional scenes including this one, though I do think Buchanan's depiction of the little kid fear at the end of the moment, also is effective. And it's a scene that does work in terms of creating a convincing resolution between the two after having been at conflict for so long.

8000's:

I'm sure I've seen Baseball Bugs at some point but don't remember it well.

Slick Hare I think is an upgrade over the other Hollywood caricature shorts by using the actual Warner Bros. characters with the caricatures, having more fun with it then just showing them, although it still does that as well. But has more in the classic Elmer chasing Bugs though for a different reason. And quite enjoy the repeated use of Bogart's "or else" and the perfect payoff for that particularly Bugs's willingness to get eaten by Lauren Bacall.

Mitchell Murray said...

Thank you for the birthday wishes everyone.

I've now made it a 1/4 century on this world...although I'll probably stick to saying 25 years...sounds better IMO.

Emi Grant said...

Louis: Oh, well. Fair enough. I do think the first scene calls for him to make an impression.

Mitchell: Happy birthday, dude!

Tim said...

Happy Birthday, Mitchell!

Perfectionist said...

Happy birthday, Mitchell.

Matthew Montada said...

Mitchell: Happy Birthday, Mitchell :)

I watched The Royal Hotel earlier today. Solid stuff, though not anything amazing by any means.

Cast Ratings:
Julia Garner - 3.5
Jessica Henwick - 3.5
Toby Wallace - 2.5 (Mixed bag of a performance really)
Hugo Weaving - 3 (wish he had more to do)
Herbert Nordrum - 3 (enjoyed him for the brief amount of time he was on-screen)

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Happy birthday Mitchell.

Anonymous said...

Louis what would be your cast and director for a 70's Killers of the Flower Moon?

RatedRStar said...

Happy birthday Mitchell.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: To hop on Anonymous’s question, 50s and 90s version as well?

Bryan L. said...

Mitchell: Happy Birthday!

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Killers of the Flower Moon 1970's directed by Sam Peckinpah:

Ernest Burkhart: Warren Oates
Mollie Burkhart: Geraldine Keams
William Hale: Ben Johnson
Tom White: James Coburn

Razor said...

Mitchell: Happy birthday!

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Yoshio Miyajima's work in Kwaidan.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Richard Roundtree

Tim said...

R.I.P. Richard Roundtree

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Richard Roundtree

RujK said...

Have you seen Only Murders in the Building Season 3? Maybe some thoughts in it, especially on the episode Sitzprobe, and the performances by Steve Martin and Martin Short.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Which TV shows have you been watching these last 2 months.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Richard Roundtree

Shaggy Rogers said...

RIP Richard Roundtree

The Only Shaft

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Dennis Boutsikaris, Rex Linn, and Cara Pifko on Better Call Saul?

Michael McCarthy said...

So I saw Killers of the Flower Moon last night. Beautifully shot and directed, Gladstone and De Niro are terrific, though I’m not all that convinced the former is lead.

I guess my take on DiCaprio is that he was…kinda all over the place? I was expecting him to go broad based on the trailer and the overall reactions I’ve been seeing, but I didn’t even think he was particularly consistent in that broadness. I think if he’d maintained the tone he set in the first half hour or so it would have felt like a cohesive character, but from scene to scene it felt like he was giving us a different characterization of Ernest’s motivations, and it amounted to a terribly uneven and unprecedentedly self-conscious performance.

Matthew Montada said...

Michael: your ratings for the cast of Killers Of The Flower Moon?

Marcus said...

Louis: As a hypothetical, had Cooper won an Oscar in 2018, do you think he still casts himself in Maestro? (or that it gets made at all)?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Marcus: I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that losing to Malek at least partially motivated him to do it. It's also funnier that way imo if he loses again.

Matt Mustin said...

Marcus: Maestro was in the works with Cooper before A Star Is Born was even released.

Matt Mustin said...

Watched Venom: Let There Be Carnage which I hated virtually every second of. I actually hugely preferred the first one, and I didn't like that one much either.

Hardy-2.5
Harrelson-3
Williams-2
Scott-1.5
Harris-1.5
Graham-2.5

Matt Mustin said...

RIP Richard Roundtree, who was almost literally the definition of cool as Shaft.

Matt Mustin said...

Oh and I rewatched the first season of Daredevil and I'm still firmly in the "pretty good" camp.

Cast ranking

1. Toby Leonard Moore
2. Scott Glenn
3. Vondie Curtis-Hall
4. Charlie Cox
5. Wai Ching Ho
6. Bob Gunton
7. Rosario Dawson
8. Deborah Ann Woll
9. Domenick Lombardozzi
10. Adriane Lenox
11. Ayelet Zurer
12. Peter McRobbie
13. Geoffrey Cantor
14. Vincent D'Onofrio
15. Elden Henson
16. Amy Rutberg (Not in it much, but awful whenever she is)

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Exceptional work in a film that was essentially Kobayashi just showing off his aesthetic skill more than anything. The craftsmanship is astounding between Kobayashi and Miyajima's work together. Every frame is composed truly like a painting, with such attention to the accentuates of the colors, the set, but with specific blocking of the actors. The complex and always though frankly perfect lighting crafts every different image of the film in striking moody detail.

Bryan:

Killers of the Flower Moon 1950's directed by Anthony Mann:

Ernest Burkhart: Arthur Kennedy
Mollie Burkhart: Katy Jurado
William Hale: Robert Ryan
Tom White: James Stewart

Killers of the Flower Moon 1990's directed by Clint Eastwood:

Ernest Burkhart: Val Kilmer
Mollie Burkhart: Sheila Tousey
William Hale: Gene Hackman
Tom White: Matthew McConaughey

Rujk:

I have. I enjoyed it, I think the musical angle added a great deal to the series, which again is just really one for a generally affable time, and as usual it was certainly that. Although I thought here the more emotional moments hit a bit harder than they did in season 2 for me, and while I fairly quickly guessed the culprit this time around, I still quite enjoyed just the Thin Manesque fun of it all, mixed in with some pretty nice tunes. Also honestly one of my favorite Streep performances, I particularly enjoyed the meta joke of her insisting that she needs to do some random accent because "it's her thing".

Louis Morgan said...

Sitzprobe I think was the proper showstopper of a musical, in that it was so good it actually maybe was too good in that the finale paled in comparison, even though the finale also was pretty good. But here the different strands came together brilliantly in just a whole lot of fun of all the different characters having their little bits of the mystery or the musical, with the musical numbers being used extremely well, mixed in with genuinely captivating in creating the mechanizations of our main crew figuring out the killer.

Martin I liked, particularly his "patter" song even though when they said he couldn't sing I just thought "come I've seen Little Shop of Horrors". But I think it was mostly just Martin being his typically affable self in the role, and I wouldn't say broke new ground within the series, however I liked him.

Short on the other hand I think gave his best performance period, though he delivered on every aspect of the role better than in any other season, in terms of the specific humor of Oliver singing more than any other season, and of course also Short getting to show his musical stuff, was also just a wonderful surprise. But there was also a surprising degree of emotion in regards to the character's relationship to the musical and his relationship with Streep, where I thought Martin consistently brought a genuine and often quite powerful depth, while also being a great romantic leading man in the moment. Loved everything he did this season.

Tony:

Boutsikaris - (I always liked his performance having this nice measured approach that never played up the sleaze, though rather played up the character's sort of specific "professional" distance who believes he's just serving his client and owns it as such. Particularly liked his scenes later with Kim where I think he brought a slightly different dynamic there that was rather nicely realized.)

Linn - (I think you can take him as the show getting better on how to do the humor, which again I always thought was too broad in the first season. I think he makes for a proper straight man per the comedy in playing bluntly his frustrations against everything that Odekirk does and is quite effective in just being the put upon man each time there.)

Pifko - (Purely functional work that I don't think really stands out either way.)

Marcus:

No, as I kind of feel Cooper doesn't want to win just one Oscar.

Luke:

Well other than Only Murders, I watched the first season of The White Lotus, which I thought was good, not great, but certainly consistently captivating. Helped by the short length perhaps, but definitely was never bored. And I guess kind of watching Loki season 2.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on...

Ed Begley Jr in Better Call Saul
This Better Call Saul scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZRYSHu9Vug
The Fargo season 5 trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SCn6UDXw_I

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on Paul Rudd, Meryl Streep, Linda Emond, Wesley Taylor, Ashley Park, Jeremy Shamos and Jesse Williams in Only Murders S3?

Calvin Law said...

I'm not too crazy on Loki Season 2 so far but Ke Huy Quan has been simply delightful.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Your cast ranking for the first season of The White Lotus?

Maciej said...

RIP Richard Roundtree

8000S said...

R.I.P. Richard Roundtree

Luke Higham said...

Martin Scorsese has a profile on Letterboxd.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Rudd - (I think Rudd is often helped when he's playing a Paul Rudd type, which sounds obvious enough, however I think in general it eases him in roles, and the funny thing often displays more range than when he is trying to completely not play anything related to his type like in Mute. Because I found him pretty effective here, in most obvious fronts being funny in being the pompous Hollywood actor and just playing into that jerk type quite well. BUT there is more, and I think the sort of comforting fantasy version of him envisioned by Mabel is also nicely done in being this warmer type personality. But again what genuinely surprised me in the scenes where we find out his "dark secrets" where Rudd managed to be genuinely quite moving in portraying the intense vulnerability deep down within the character after all.)

Streep - (Honestly I frequently enjoy her most when playing into somewhat lighter tones. And we get that here where she does have some genuine fun playing off her more expected image, though as someone who has far less credibility. The table reading scene being great fun of her purposefully subverting her expectation and having fun taking something out of her expected performances. Playing quite well in doing the Streep expectation, but from someone who isn't Streep changing the situation. Beyond that though I thought she was consistently pitch perfect in creating the different shades of her character in the more emotional tasks. Particularly in creating the underlying sort of connection in turn desperation around what she thinks she needs to do. While also being just rather winning in her chemistry with Short, creating an honest warmth between them that was sweet in a low key but rather honest way. While also delivering on the musical side of things through her performances where she very much carried the emotion behind the song each time quite powerfully. Great work from her.)

Emond - (For much of the season she was just kind of the cutting producer delivering every line with a bit of venom but also this low key passion. And delivered that well, while also doing a bit of Angela Lansbury in Manchurian Candidate in the rather ahem motherly love shown in the loving scenes with her son. But in her big scene later on I thought she was altogether great in playing every note of the hidden genuine emotion behind everything, and played with a real sense of surprising degree of empathy that managed to actually make you feel more for her character, where the expectation would be the opposite.)

Taylor - (Very much playing a certain expected type, where I thought he was perfectly fine as such without overdoing it too much, even if the point was to over do it. His later additional moments didn't quite deliver as well as Emond's for me, but I think he was more than fine in creating a bit more to the character overall.)

Park - (I mean mostly there I imagine for the duet with Streep, where her coming into the song is quite great, and she delivers it fantastically. The rest of the time I think she brings such enough life to a character, who I think everyone would have an immediate guess about. Nonetheless, I liked her general presence here, even if her role on the whole was relatively limited.)

Louis Morgan said...

Shamos - (Ah Mr. Kettleman we meet again. But thankfully his slightly heightened methods are far more befitting the tone of Only Murders on the whole, also he's probably less broad here honestly. I think again creates the right sense of this slight hidden bitterness about his manner and every delivery about Rudd's character featuring more than a bit of frustration. However he does balance that with moments of more vulnerability in showing that there was perhaps more there, and even more in his moments later on with another character, where I think he did deliver in playing quite simply yet most effectively.)

Williams - (I will bluntly say, he's coming off of what is always the least interesting role in each season, that being Mabel's love interest. I wouldn't say his character is that much more complex than what we saw in 1 & 2, other than I did like Williams's performance a bit more. I thought he had the most chemistry with Gomez and he just brought a general affability and curiosity that worked well with the role. I'm sure he'll never be heard of again, but as the three love interests go, I thought Williams was easily the best.)

Tony:

Think I have covered Begley before.

And what I was referring to before, where Boutsikaris's performance is completely honest and wholly genuine towards Kim, he doesn't play it with a hint as a trick or anything like that. Rather sharing his story, and before supportive, that is everything that is completely true in to Rich in the moment. And a great scene in terms of sort of taking a character you think will be one thing, will be something else entirely.

Look like another season of Fargo, which even when it's gotten sloppy, particularly in the wrap of the final season, I still find plenty to enjoy. I would love this to return to the greatness of season 1 & 2, but I'm sure I'll probably watch it regardless.

Ytrewq:

1. Murray Bartlett
2. Alexandra Daddario
3. Jennifer Coolidge
4. Jake Lacy
5. Sydney Sweeney
6. Steve Zahn
7. Connie Britton
8. Jon Gries
9. Natasha Rothwell
10. Molly Shannon
11. Brittany O'Grady
12. Kekoa Scott Kekumano
13. Fred Hechinger
14. Lukas Gage

Calvin:

Yeah from what I've seen, I've found it pretty "eh" despite liking the addition of Quan.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Where would Only Murders In The Building rank in Martin, Rudd and Streep's careers.

Anonymous said...

Luke, when will you watch KOTFM.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Probably not until early next year. I tend to wait awhile on new releases as work takes alot of my time these days and I do have interests aside from Films.

Tony Kim said...

Does anyone recall where Louis gave his thoughts on Begley? I can't find them through Google.

Louis: Your thoughts on the Sopranos episode Remember When?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on #1-8 for the White Lotus cast.

Matthew Montada said...

Hey folks. I went to an early screening of David Fincher’s The Killer last night. Found it to be pretty excellent stuff overall.

Letterboxd Review: https://boxd.it/53PgXR

Cast Ratings:
Michael Fassbender - 4
Arliss Howard - 3.5
Charles Parnell - 4
Kerry O’Malley - 4
Sala Baker - 3
Sophie Charlotte - 3
Tilda Swinton - 4.5

Calvin Law said...

Saw Perfect Days...well, I loved it and it's my new favourite film of the year. Koji Yakusho is transcendent.

8000S said...

Louis: We've been talking about the idea of Kurosawa doing a crime thriller set in Hokkaido, with Mifune and Yamazaki as the detectives and Nakadai as the villain.

There's a movie from 1964 where Yamazaki plays a detective that is accused of a crime he didn't commit. Supposedly, the movie is based on a novel that Shinobu Hashimoto wrote, and it also has Kyoko Kishida, Takashi Shimura and Michiyo Aratama in the cast.

Unfortunately, I can't find the movie anywhere.

Thoughts?

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on this short film by Scorsese? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKqfSSZV8nY

8000S said...

R.I.P. Richard Moll.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Richard Moll

RatedRStar said...

RIP Richard Moll

Marcus said...

Louis: Which shows/films make you hungry whenever you see them?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Streep below Cry in the Dark, and Angels in America. Rudd's best. Martin just in the top five.

Tony:

The two contrasts of the toxic nature of all really. The Junior story is fully an example of just how toxic he is in the relationship, even if presented in a comedic way you see throughout just how insidious his presence really is and unravels that with humor however with an actual depth to what makes him worse than you even might think he is. Contrasting that is the "good times" with Tony and Paulie, where you see just how hollow their relationship is in the deep center and there were no good times. The best scene being on the boat between the two of them, where you see that Tony is looking for an excuse to kill Paulie at this point showing how far he's gone, meanwhile Paulie sticking to his old school guns always, not admitting to it, however playings so well the underlying fear just as he maintains his innocence, and I might Sirico's never been better than in that scene in playing everything he's going through in the moment.

I mean its reason for existing isn't hidden, however the jealous banter between De Niro and DiCaprio is enjoyable, with both playing a note you don't see too often from either, and the terrible line deliveries from Pitt is a pretty good punchline, particularly with Scorsese's reaction.

Anonymous:

Bartlett - (One of those performances that do make you say "who is this guy?" as he's one who just so easily dominates everything and just runs away with every moment. Essentially within himself creating this own sort of Uncut Gems style self-implosion that we see running in time with every episode of the series. Creating though so many angles with the character, first and foremost the manager upfront brings that eager excessive politeness that is just essentially a breaking act that we slowly dissolve over the course of the series. But as much is terrific in showing sort of the man living just right on the edge of it all in each moment and just running out of any sort of personal boundary as he sees everything about his life breaking apart in front of him. Bartlett is an incredible ball of energy and doing so in the way of making the mess the man becomes so captivating, having moments of humor, near insanity, but also very human frustration all the same.)

Daddario - (Quite an impressive sort of subversion and commentary I think often on the roles she was sort of expected to play. As Daddario plays the setup "arm candy' to Lacy's character, and Daddario's performance was consistently so much more than that. Bringing such genuine nuance in the woman always trying to see if there's more than just physical attraction in the relationship and creating a real sense of the anxiety of the difficulty of the relationship. She creates a real sense of the unease of her character and creates within that a more genuine depth of the someone trying to see what they're actually worth, while being faced more than once against so many putting her down or positioning something as that. She shows through in every reaction more than the expectation, building towards her eventual sort of breakdown/lashing out so naturally and powerfully in the moment.)

Louis Morgan said...

Coolidge - (I will actually say I don't think on the whole I'm as crazy about this performance as so many seem to be, as I liked it the most when Jon Gries shows up and then really enjoyed the straight man comedy against her hot mess that really made her sing, which I've quite enjoyed in the season 2 episodes I've seen so far. Having said that, she certainly does work though in creating the complete mess of a person who is always too much at all times at everything she does, and is just basically in this barely together state at all times that defines everything she does. And hits this note, a wavering note, quite well, even if I didn't love *as * much as some.)

Lacy - (I mean just a properly done horribly privileged pompous jerk, and just plays that note incredibly well with just how much he is basically drooling when he thinks he can get his vengeance against the staff. Lacy owns the note quite efficiently and is horrible in just the right way.)

Sweeney - (Though she was quite effective in playing really one note of being intensely acerbic in every moment for much of the series, but had quite the presence in playing that note cutting through each scene most effectively. I will say though the bit more nuance later on in showing some actual humanity though was also well handled if purposefully limited.)

Zahn - (Even though this is a semi-dramatic part in some ways his overall performance is much more goofy Zahn than anything that you'd be used to from his comedic performances. Zahn is enjoyable in playing this note regardless though. It isn't some great big change or swing by him by any means, but doing the sort of slightly crazed routine certainly is effective though in its purpose mostly to be funny with some minor dramatic weight.)

Britton - (I thought she was entirely fine though she only really has one big scene that isn't just being the "mom" in a generalized sense and the being slightly frustrated by her series of responsibilities. She is effective though in her one big scene where we see that all implode all at once.)

Gries - (Thought he was very funny in just playing off of Coolidge, with this kind of straight man reaction that is just enough, well being so little. Just sort of this always blunt delivery that is such the absolute of her purposefully labored performance that just works so well as contrasts.)

8000's:

Sounds interesting to be sure.

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

Well the Bear recently, although I wasn't crazy about the film, Chef did do that, and of course the prison scene in Goodfellas. Also a shout out to Tuco's burritos in Breaking Bad.

Shaggy Rogers said...

RIP Matthew Perry

CHANDLER no
:(

Perfectionist said...

Rest Easy, Matthew Perry.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

RIP Matthew Perry.

RatedRStar said...

OMG RIP Matthew Perry, I am very shocked to hear this.

Mitchell Murray said...

Rest in peace, Matthew Perry...simply tragic.

Mitchell Murray said...

On another note if anyone's interested...it's been a while, but I finally have a working review for another blog post.

I'll lead into it by saying this....Clancy Brown has an awesome voice.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Matthew Perry, I'm stunned beyond words

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Matthew Perry

Maciej said...

RIP Matthew Perry

Razor said...

RIP Matthew Perry.

Anonymous said...

Damn, not Chandler Bing.
Rest in Peace Matthew Perry.

Louis Morgan said...


I didn't love every visual choice of Anatomy of a Fall and thought it dragged just a touch near the end, however on the whole found it a captivating procedural on a crime, that is about each minute detail in terms of evidence but also emotionally as it as much an autopsy of a relationship.

Huller - 5
Arlaud - 4
Machado-Graner - 4
Reinartz - 4
Theis - 4

Tony Kim said...

Louis, have you seen any of Scorsese's documentaries and short films (other than The Key to Reserva and The Audition)?

Also, have you seen any films from Errol Morris?

Louis Morgan said...

Other than one scene near the end of the film, involving a waitress, that reminded me of the Payne I hate, I must, somewhat begrudgingly admit I kind of loved the Holdovers. I'll admit certain aspects of the aesthetic to me, whether it be the 70's setting, the often snowy landscape, or of course the Christmassy everything, I all found it remarkably cozy in a way that couldn't quite resist. But beyond that, the story of the grumps, who are going to show their better sides, also just naturally, perhaps works can just work for me, particularly at Christmas (just ask Dickens). And while it unfolds in a somewhat expected way, though there are definitely surprises in this story, the charm, humor and just empathetic life in the central characters was endlessly engaging to me. I could try to be a grump here, but the big smile on my face for the majority of the film would call me a liar.

Sessa & Giamatti are co-leads.

Randolph - 4
Preston - 3.5
The other Holdovers - 3
Garcia - 3

Luke Higham said...

I really do hope Giamatti finally gets his 5 review.

Louis: Thoughts on the cast. I assume you'll be saving your Anatomy Of A Fall thoughts for later.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Okay, I'll ask: Why is Fishburne at 30 and Goldblum at 50 in their rankings for 1992 for Deep Cover?

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

None and I have not. My docs blind spots is why I always allow recommendations for any year during pre-Oscar hiatus period.

Luke:

Randolph - (Other than the fact that she immediately drops an attempted accent after one scene, I thought she was quite good here. Portraying this sort of surface ambivalence to existence while always carrying the undercurrent of a real sadness just beneath the surface that is ever wavering as it is. While I think hitting the right comedic marks without overplaying her more wisecracking moments and hitting them more naturally as moments of blunt wisdom. And though delivering in her bigger dramatic moments, by having that underlying sadness making it so when the more overwhelming moments come it, not only does it feel earned it is quite moving as well as Randolph so bluntly reveals the pain as something that isn't something she can fully hide.)

Preston - (Really liked the very specific outgoing warmth she brought, but I'll just leave it at that for the moment.

The Other holdovers - (They had me concerned and I did perhaps say "uh oh" when presented them initially, as each had the potential to be full on caricatures, however the script gives all but one them a very specific humane moment that I think balances it out nicely, with each of the actors using those moments effectively to give life to them beyond the more general idea that begin with. Then there is the jerk as the counterbalance, however as such I think it worked, without going too far as such.)

Garcia - (A nice low key charm to his moments, doesn't have too much focus but liked the warmth he brought.)

Robert:

Chalk that up to a film I had added to the rankings at one point as a "oh I have seen this", as one point, though not recently and likely imperfectly whenever I did. So I had simply recalled liking the two of them but not enough specifics to go beyond a somewhat conservative ranking for each.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, I'm not sure if these would be your cup of tea, but could I get your thoughts on these original songs?

Decode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvnkAtWcKYg
I Caught Myself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLNni7IL268
Teenagers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLJaenDtTo

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: I have two requests saved up. I request both.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Decidedly not my cup of tea for any of them, that fall into the category of "pop noise" for me.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Well, different strokes, I suppose.

Your thoughts on the Better Call Saul episodes Bali Ha'i, Inflatable, and Fifi?