So, Hill somehow managed to slip into the Bruhl's spot...
Anyway, I've seen only Abdi and he was amazing: managed to fully realize his character despite the nature of the movie, something Hanks failed to do. I will definitely see Hill this weekend and I have to wait for the rest unfortunately...
I wanted to start doing this category today, but I don't want the both of us to do the same year at the same time, so I'll do supporting actress first. (And I hope I'll have a chance to see Nebraska soon.) And here I my predictions for your ranking: 1) Jared Leto 2) Michael Fassbender 3) Barkhad Abdi 4) Jonah Hill 5) Bradley Cooper
I woke up at 7:15 just so that I could be monumentally disappointed by all of the American Hustle love. Oh well. 1. Michael Fassbender (5) 2. Jared Leto (5) 3. Barkhad Abdi (4.5 or 5) 4. Jonah Hill (3) 5. Bradley Cooper (2)
Maciej: Technically they made a lot of great choices both in keeping with precursors and diverging from them (leaving off Oprah was a good thing for example). But as usual there were some questionable choices such as their absurd love for O'Russell.
Thanks for posting them. Did you think Blanchett will be deserving of her (inevitably) 2nd oscar? Just curious, I liked her quite a lot, since you ranked her second.
I am also in full agreement with you about the cast of American hustle... I don't know if it was the writing, or it the four actors nominated decided to BS the film.
Anonymous: I should say there is a big jump between Blanchett and Streep. I thought Blanchett was indeed very good so I would say her win will be deserving enough.
Yes, I certainly wasn't that impressed by the ladies in Osage County either. It's a shame they didn't nominate Gerwig from Francis Ha, or nominate the two deserving actors from Enough Said (Louis-Dreyfus/Gandolfini).
Louis: yeah, I also cannot comprehend the fact that from 2010 Russell gets a nod for his every movie, occupying a slot for someone more deserving (in 2010: Nolan, in 2012: Affleck, in 2013: Grenngrass)
Matt Mustin: Silver Linings Playbook is the only film other than three kings, that I liked, although that is due to the acting of the main leads. Not the Direction. The Fighter was fine, although I prefer Warrior when it comes to recent fight films & American Hustle was Boring as F***
I'm actually a HUGE fan of The Fighter, and I think Warrior was too dumb to consider it even in the same league. The only thing that really impressed me in Warrior was Edgerton. Yeah, I know Hardy used his physicality and had a more tragic character blah blah blah, Edgerton did more with those sad eyes of his than the movie deserved.
Matt Mustin: I thought Christian Bale was really good, although the formulaic script let him down a bit, Leo & Adams are fine, nothing special & Mark Wahlberg is his usual one note, tough guy self.
Koook160: I'm not totally dissing the acting, I thought Christian Bale was the best out of the four main characters & Jeremy Renner gave the best performance, but should've had more material
I actually liked American Hustle, but I don't think Bale or Cooper should've been nominated. If there's anyone who should've been nominated over him (and I'd sooner knock out Alexander Payne), it's absolutely Spike Jonze. He did a beautiful job with Her.
Also Louis, which are you going to review first, the Alternates for supporting actor 2013 or the oscar nominations for lead 2013?
I'm so glad about Redford's snub. There was nothing award-worthy about his performance. But I'm very sad about Hanks's, Bruhl's and Thompson's snubs. They were all great. BTW, I started doing best supporting actress on my blog, so check it out, in case you're interested... :)
Interesting year all around. I don't think that five years ago, anyone would've expected Hill and Cooper to be nominees at all, much less two time nominees. Even crazier, they're the only ones in the category to have been nominated before.
Something else interesting: with a few exceptions (like last year), every Best Picture winner since 1980 also has been nominated for Director, Screenplay, and Editing. Only two movies have all those nominations this year: 12 Years a Slave and American Hustle. So let's all hope 12 Years a Slave bring homes the gold.
If American Hustle Wins, It'll join Crash, Million Dollar Baby & Chicago as the worst best picture winners of the century so far.
Gladiator had a great performance by Oliver Reed. A Beautiful Mind had a excellent performance by Russell Crowe. Slumdog Millionaire was the only decent film in the 2008 lineup. The King's Speech, I enjoyed well enough, although that's the history nerd in me. Argo was very good for what it was, as escapist entertainment.
2000- Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2001- The Fellowship of the Ring 2002- The Pianist 2003- The Return of the King 2004- The Aviator 2005- Good Night and Good Luck 2006- The Departed 2007- There Will Be Blood 2008- Frost/Nixon (terrible line-up) 2009- Inglourious Basterds 2010- The Social Network 2011- The Artist 2012- Zero Dark Thirty 2013- 12 Years a Slave
Well the main person that I rooted for was Leonardo DiCaprio since its been so long, 6 years is a long time to wait for your fourth nomination, so Bruhl being snubbed is of no concern to me anymore (im cold hearted like that). I am even cool with Jonah Hills nomination, he was better in Wolf than Moneyball.
Also most people here seem to dislike O Russell, how come, I dont really no anything about his behaviour, what does he do? is it similar to my nemesis Joaquin?
Also, Louis, looks like since 2013 nominees were good enough for me, you ll have to wait for 1946 for the angry rant.
RatedRStar: when it comes to not winning an oscar, could Dicaprio join Burton & O'Toole for the most losses. Dicaprio really deserves more respect from his peers, than he has right now, considering where he was 17 years ago as the headstrong romantic type in Romeo + Juliet & Titanic
RatedRStar: He put Christopher Nolan in a headlock for trying to steal Jude Law for a film, he got into a fistfight with George Clooney because O. Russell was harassing extras, and just watch his fights with Lily Tomlin on youtube. (There's even more than that even)
if Leonardo DiCaprio gets like 7 nominations, and never wins then, at least he is being nominated, thats good enough for me nowadays, being nominated is more important nowadays then winning.
Maciej: I know this was a long, long way back in the thread, but I disagree with David O. Russell being less deserving than Affleck last year. Affleck's direction was nothing more than standard, whereas Russell's was underrated. He had to make the film's tone a funny one without being exploitative and I think he did a terrific job.
Well you can certainly give the cinematographers some credits for not falling in line and recognizing The Grandmaster, Prisoners and Inside Llewyn Davis despite those films being either largely or completely ignored elsewhere.
Michael Patison: Well, I wouldn't agree. I mean I would agree about him not being exploitative, but only about the first half of the movie. Then, SLP turned into very predictable, schmaltzy and completely improbable rom-com. Affleck managed to capture the zeitgeist of the late 70's and did a fantastic job of keeping the audience (or at least me) on the edge of my seat. Then again, I completely forgot in the post-nominations frenzy that Bigelow did even a better job with ZDT, so I guess it should be her that got robbed to an even greater extent. Anyway, my line-up for the year would be: Bigelow for "Zero Dark Thirty" (winner), Affleck for "Argo", Spielberg for "Lincoln", Haneke for "Amour" and Ayer for "End of Watch". Out of curiosity who would you nominate?
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Predictions & Expected Ratings
1.Leto (5)
2.Fassbender (5)
3.Barkhad Abdi (5)
4.Jonah Hill (3 to 3.5)
5.Bradley Cooper (2.5)
So, Hill somehow managed to slip into the Bruhl's spot...
Anyway, I've seen only Abdi and he was amazing: managed to fully realize his character despite the nature of the movie, something Hanks failed to do. I will definitely see Hill this weekend and I have to wait for the rest unfortunately...
1.Fassbender
2.Leto
3.Abdi
4.Cooper
5.Hill
And what do you think of the nominations, Louis?
I wanted to start doing this category today, but I don't want the both of us to do the same year at the same time, so I'll do supporting actress first. (And I hope I'll have a chance to see Nebraska soon.)
And here I my predictions for your ranking:
1) Jared Leto
2) Michael Fassbender
3) Barkhad Abdi
4) Jonah Hill
5) Bradley Cooper
I woke up at 7:15 just so that I could be monumentally disappointed by all of the American Hustle love. Oh well.
1. Michael Fassbender (5)
2. Jared Leto (5)
3. Barkhad Abdi (4.5 or 5)
4. Jonah Hill (3)
5. Bradley Cooper (2)
1. Michael Fassbender
2. Jared Leto
3. Barkhad Abdi
4. Jonah Hill
5. Bradley Cooper
My guess:
1. Leto
2. Abdi
3. Fassbender
4. Hill
5. Cooper
Maciej: Technically they made a lot of great choices both in keeping with precursors and diverging from them (leaving off Oprah was a good thing for example). But as usual there were some questionable choices such as their absurd love for O'Russell.
Do you have a quick #1-5 ranking for the Actresses/Supporting Actresses, Louis? Just wondering since you only review best actor/supp. actor
Hey!
There were some surprises here and there, for me at least. Predictions:
1. Jared Leto
2. Michael Fassbender
3. Barkhad Abdi
4. Jonah Hill
5. Bradley Cooper
I'm not as upset about Hanks as most. But then again, I liked Abdi more.
Anonymous: Sure, although they are incomplete at the moment.
Actress:
1.Bullock
2.Blanchett
3.Streep
4.Adams
Supporting Actress:
1.Nyong'o
2.Hawkins
3.Roberts
4.Lawrence
Thanks for posting them. Did you think Blanchett will be deserving of her (inevitably) 2nd oscar? Just curious, I liked her quite a lot, since you ranked her second.
I am also in full agreement with you about the cast of American hustle... I don't know if it was the writing, or it the four actors nominated decided to BS the film.
How I'd rank the women (haven't seen Philomena)
1. Blanchett - 5
2. Adams - 4.5
3. Bullock - 4.5
4. Streep - 1.5
1. Nyongo'o - 5
2. Hawkins - 4.5
3. Lawrence - 4
4. Roberts - 4
5. Squibb - 3
Anonymous: I should say there is a big jump between Blanchett and Streep. I thought Blanchett was indeed very good so I would say her win will be deserving enough.
Yes, I certainly wasn't that impressed by the ladies in Osage County either. It's a shame they didn't nominate Gerwig from Francis Ha, or nominate the two deserving actors from Enough Said (Louis-Dreyfus/Gandolfini).
Louis: yeah, I also cannot comprehend the fact that from 2010 Russell gets a nod for his every movie, occupying a slot for someone more deserving (in 2010: Nolan, in 2012: Affleck, in 2013: Grenngrass)
Man, FUCK American Hustle!
David O'Russell is probably the most overrated director in the film industry right now.
Predictions:
1.Fassbender
2.Leto
3.Abdi
4.Hill
5. Cooper
Louis: Are you happy that Fassbender finally got nominated.
Luke: Silver Linings Playbook was AMAZING,The Fighter was very good. Hustle is the first film I've seen from him that I've disliked.
And it's David O. Russell, NOT David O'Russell.
Luke: Certainly.
Matt: Eh that lout doesn't need his name spelled correctly.
Louis: Hey, as I recall, you were a fan of Silver Linings Playbook.
Matt Mustin: Silver Linings Playbook is the only film other than three kings, that I liked, although that is due to the acting of the main leads. Not the Direction. The Fighter was fine, although I prefer Warrior when it comes to recent fight films & American Hustle was Boring as F***
Thanks for correcting me on O. Russell.
Matt: For once I referring to his personal behavior.
Louis: Agreed, He's an utter douchebag, who keeps getting a BJ from the academy.
Louis: Ah, okay, I agree.
Luke: I think I liked Warrior better too, but the performances in The Fighter are just too good to ignore.
I'm actually a HUGE fan of The Fighter, and I think Warrior was too dumb to consider it even in the same league. The only thing that really impressed me in Warrior was Edgerton. Yeah, I know Hardy used his physicality and had a more tragic character blah blah blah, Edgerton did more with those sad eyes of his than the movie deserved.
Matt Mustin: I thought Christian Bale was really good, although the formulaic script let him down a bit, Leo & Adams are fine, nothing special & Mark Wahlberg is his usual one note, tough guy self.
It's sad I'm the only one here that at least liked the acting in Hustle. Maybe because I'm from Jersey.
Koook160: I'm not totally dissing the acting, I thought Christian Bale was the best out of the four main characters & Jeremy Renner gave the best performance, but should've had more material
I also like it, don't worry, kook... :)
koook: I thought Bale and Adams were both terrific.
Louis: My fears have been realised, American Hustle, Best Picture Winner
HA! Don't get your tits in a twist, 12 Years is gonna win.
Koook160: I F***** hope so, If anything beats 12 Years, Gravity or The Wolf of Wall Street, then fuck the academy.
I haven't seen Captain Phillips, Her or Dallas Buyers Club, so please don't judge me
I actually liked American Hustle, but I don't think Bale or Cooper should've been nominated. If there's anyone who should've been nominated over him (and I'd sooner knock out Alexander Payne), it's absolutely Spike Jonze. He did a beautiful job with Her.
Also Louis, which are you going to review first, the Alternates for supporting actor 2013 or the oscar nominations for lead 2013?
Michael: Probably the official leads.
No Forest Whitaker yay.
1) Jared Leto
2) Michael Fassbender
3) Barkhad Abdi
4) Jonah Hill
5) Bradley Cooper
1) Jared Leto
2) Michael Fassbender
3) Barkhad Abdi
4) Jonah Hill
5) Bradley Cooper
1) Jared Leto
2) Michael Fassbender
3) Barkhad Abdi
4) Jonah Hill
5) Bradley Cooper
I'm so glad about Redford's snub. There was nothing award-worthy about his performance. But I'm very sad about Hanks's, Bruhl's and Thompson's snubs. They were all great.
BTW, I started doing best supporting actress on my blog, so check it out, in case you're interested... :)
RatedRStar: what were your thoughts on Bruhl's snub.
I can't believe Cooper & Hill are Two time nominees.
Louis: What rating would you give Cate Blanchett.
4.5.
Louis: Are you amazed that Jonah Hill is now a 2 time nominee.
Louis: Have you seen Prisoners, if so what were your thoughts on Jackman & Gyllenhaal
1. Leto
2. Fassbender
3. Abdi
4. Hill
5. Cooper
Interesting year all around. I don't think that five years ago, anyone would've expected Hill and Cooper to be nominees at all, much less two time nominees. Even crazier, they're the only ones in the category to have been nominated before.
Something else interesting: with a few exceptions (like last year), every Best Picture winner since 1980 also has been nominated for Director, Screenplay, and Editing. Only two movies have all those nominations this year: 12 Years a Slave and American Hustle. So let's all hope 12 Years a Slave bring homes the gold.
Luke: He could possibly become the new Arthur Kennedy, while Philip Seymour Hoffman is the Claude Rains.
I saw Prisoners Gyllenhaal was excellent (it's a shame he could not find any traction), Jackman's performance was a bit overblown.
Mark: Agreed
If American Hustle Wins, It'll join Crash, Million Dollar Baby & Chicago as the worst best picture winners of the century so far.
Gladiator had a great performance by Oliver Reed.
A Beautiful Mind had a excellent performance by Russell Crowe.
Slumdog Millionaire was the only decent film in the 2008 lineup.
The King's Speech, I enjoyed well enough, although that's the history nerd in me.
Argo was very good for what it was, as escapist entertainment.
Louis: who are your best picture choices from 2000 to 2013 (actual nominees)
2000- Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
2001- The Fellowship of the Ring
2002- The Pianist
2003- The Return of the King
2004- The Aviator
2005- Good Night and Good Luck
2006- The Departed
2007- There Will Be Blood
2008- Frost/Nixon (terrible line-up)
2009- Inglourious Basterds
2010- The Social Network
2011- The Artist
2012- Zero Dark Thirty
2013- 12 Years a Slave
Louis: A bit surprised with your pick for there will be blood. Do you appreciate Daniel Day Lewis's performance more or still the same.
Don't forget he is my choice out of the nominees, I might not be as big on his performance as some but I still feel it is strong work.
What rating would you give Jessica Chastain in Zero Dark Thirty
4.5.
Are there any 5 star Female performances in the last 15 years, that you have seen.
Well the main person that I rooted for was Leonardo DiCaprio since its been so long, 6 years is a long time to wait for your fourth nomination, so Bruhl being snubbed is of no concern to me anymore (im cold hearted like that). I am even cool with Jonah Hills nomination, he was better in Wolf than Moneyball.
Phillip Seymour Hoffman the new Claude Rains, im not sure about that lol.
Luke: Charlize Theron in Monster.
RatedRStar: Well he's almost tied for the supporting nominations record.
Also most people here seem to dislike O Russell, how come, I dont really no anything about his behaviour, what does he do? is it similar to my nemesis Joaquin?
Also, Louis, looks like since 2013 nominees were good enough for me, you ll have to wait for 1946 for the angry rant.
RatedRStar: when it comes to not winning an oscar, could Dicaprio join Burton & O'Toole for the most losses. Dicaprio really deserves more respect from his peers, than he has right now, considering where he was 17 years ago as the headstrong romantic type in Romeo + Juliet & Titanic
RatedRStar: He put Christopher Nolan in a headlock for trying to steal Jude Law for a film, he got into a fistfight with George Clooney because O. Russell was harassing extras, and just watch his fights with Lily Tomlin on youtube. (There's even more than that even)
if Leonardo DiCaprio gets like 7 nominations, and never wins then, at least he is being nominated, thats good enough for me nowadays, being nominated is more important nowadays then winning.
@Louis Morgan: oh right I didnt know, maybe id like to have a fist fight with him lol, I might get support then my rivalry with Phoenix.
RatedRStar: If he keeps getting nominated for 4 star plus performances, I'll be happy enough too.
It's so satisfying to hear the words: Michael Fassbender: Academy Award Nominee
Maciej: I know this was a long, long way back in the thread, but I disagree with David O. Russell being less deserving than Affleck last year. Affleck's direction was nothing more than standard, whereas Russell's was underrated. He had to make the film's tone a funny one without being exploitative and I think he did a terrific job.
Michael Patison: What were your thoughts on the Baelor Episode in Game of Thrones.
Louis: what did you think of Mo'nique in Precious.
Her performance was terrific portrayal of unrepentant selfishness and cruelty. I would give her a 5.
Yeah if George Clooney is in a fight with someone and Louis sides with George Clooney, you know that the other guy has got to be an asshole.
=D yep, hell I would probably defend Phoenix if this Russell fella is really a douche.
One thing that surprised me Louis, is The Grandmaster getting 2 nominations but not 1 for Foreign Language lol
Well you can certainly give the cinematographers some credits for not falling in line and recognizing The Grandmaster, Prisoners and Inside Llewyn Davis despite those films being either largely or completely ignored elsewhere.
That's one more nomination for the great Roger Deakins. Shame he has no chance.
Michael Patison: Well, I wouldn't agree. I mean I would agree about him not being exploitative, but only about the first half of the movie. Then, SLP turned into very predictable, schmaltzy and completely improbable rom-com. Affleck managed to capture the zeitgeist of the late 70's and did a fantastic job of keeping the audience (or at least me) on the edge of my seat. Then again, I completely forgot in the post-nominations frenzy that Bigelow did even a better job with ZDT, so I guess it should be her that got robbed to an even greater extent. Anyway, my line-up for the year would be: Bigelow for "Zero Dark Thirty" (winner), Affleck for "Argo", Spielberg for "Lincoln", Haneke for "Amour" and Ayer for "End of Watch". Out of curiosity who would you nominate?
1. Abdi
2. Leto
3. Fassbender
4. Hill
5. Cooper
Maciej: I have see so little relatively speaking that I don't want to comment on that.
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