Saturday, 11 November 2017

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1988: Results

5. Eric Idle in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen - Idle gives a rather amusing performance that matches the film's tone, and adds to its various delights. 

Best Actor: Split second save.
4. Pete Postlethwaite in Distant Voices, Still Lives - Postlethewaite effectively captures the various memories of a father both in moments of severe brutality and occasional warmth.

Best Scene: Unpleasant Dinner. 
3. Jacky Cheung in As Tears Go By - Cheung makes for an effective time bomb in his properly flamboyant portrayal of a wannabe gangster on a constant collision course with reality.

Best Scene: Becoming a real gangster.
2. M. Emmet Walsh in Clean and Sober - Walsh makes a striking impact in such limited screentime initially in creating the sense of a history of pain from his own life of drugs, and creating a truly empathetic figure there to help and improve another who was once like himself.

Best Scene: Waiting. 
1. John Lone in The Moderns - Lone gives a brilliant performance here creating a properly ruthless depiction of a vicious businessman, however while honestly revealing the desperation within the man which leads to his downfall. 

Best Scene: Destroying the art.
Updated Overall

Next Year: 2010 Lead

51 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Riz Ahmed - Four Lions
Mads Mikkelsen - Valhalla Rising
Martin Sheen - The Way
Stellan Skarsgard - King of Devil's Island
Ryan Reynolds - Buried or Alan Tudyk & Tyler Labine in Tucker And Dale Vs. Evil

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the rest of the leading performances you saw.

Thoughts on the rest of your 3.5-4s in Supporting.

and Thoughts on any other Female Performances that got a 4 or higher from you.

Luke Higham said...

Nice to see Palin and Kline tied for the win.

Luke Higham said...

I'll come up with a list of films to watch tomorrow.

RatedRStar said...

Riz Ahmed - Four Lions
Mads Mikkelsen - Valhalla Rising
Ryan Reynolds - Buried
Michael Douglas - Solitary Man
Jim Carrey - I Love You Phillip Morris

Luke Higham said...

I'll change mine:
Ahmed
Mikkelsen
Tudyk/Labine
Douglas
Carrey

Bryan L. said...

Everyone: Thoughts on this 2010s cast for Unforgiven? Can't fully decide on Munny.

William Munny- One of Kurt Russell, Denzel Washington, Jeff Bridges or Liam Neeson (I do think the part should go to someone who's innately "American", but Neeson could also pull it off as a subversion of his action heroes, kind of like how he subverted his mentor roles in Silence)
Little Bill- Ed Harris
English Bob- Jeremy Irons
Ned Logan- Danny Glover
Beauchamp- Josh Gad
The Schofield Kid- Alden Ehrenreich

Luke Higham said...

Bryan L: I like it. :)

Matt Mustin said...

Mads Mikkelsen in Valhala Rising
Ryan Gosling in All Good Things (I thought he was brilliant)
Casey Affleck in The Killer Inside Me
Joaquin Phoenix in I'm Still Here (at the very least, it should be an interesting review)
Riz Ahmed in Four Lions

Luke Higham said...

Now guys, don't be worried if there's a performance that you feel that it could/should get a five doesn't get in the lineup. As shown with Brandauer, he'll review it.

Anonymous said...

Luke: Thanks! I also had Tommy Lee Jones in mind as Ned Logan. Michael Keaton could also work as Little Bill as evidenced by Spider Man: Homecoming, but he may look a bit too modern. Ed Harris just looks like a guy you'd meet in that era.

Luke Higham said...

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if we got special reviews for either Lee Byung-Hun or Ewan McGregor and I expect Jesse Eisenberg to go up as well.

Matt Mustin said...

2010's Unforgiven
Will Munny-Kurt Russell
Little Bill-Ed Harris is perfect, I can't improve on that.
English Bob-Charles Dance (he's extremely charming in interviews and it would be a good change of pace from Tywin Lannister)
Ned Logan-Delroy Lindo, maybe?
Beauchamp-Dohmnall Gleeson
Schofield Kid-Will Poulter.

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan L: Your choices are all pretty damn perfect, I just thought I'd give mine.

Vanna Long said...

Edgar Ramirez in Carlos
Jim Carrey in I Love You Phillip Morris
William Shimell in Certified Copy

Luke Higham said...

Vanna: Carlos premiered on French Television so it's not eligible, I'm afraid.

Charles Heiston said...

Riz Ahmed - Four Lions
Mads Mikkelsen - Valhalla Rising
Martin Sheen - The Way
Little Bill- Ed Harris
English Bob- Jeremy Irons

Anonymous said...

Luke Higham

I'll put Sheen back in instead of Douglas.

Vanna Long said...

Luke: That is a shame, he would be my first pick. if it doesn't count then these are my 5 picks

Jim Carrey in I Love You Phillip Morris
William Shimell in Certified Copy
Kodi-Smit Mcphee in Let Me In
Mads Mikkelsen in Valhalla Rising
Joaquin Phoenix in I'm Still Here

Bryan L. said...

Matt: Now that you mention it, I like Charles Dance and Domnhall Gleeson in those roles more. Beauchamp seems like a part made for Gad but he may be too contemporary as well, and English Bob should be more pleasantly charming instead of darkingly charming like Irons is. I'm sticking with Danny Glover though haha. I chose Alden because he already played a cowboy pretty well in Hail Caesar! (a movie with a different tone of course) but Poulter would be great.

Vanna Long said...

Luke: That is a shame, if he doesn't count then these are my 5 picks

Jim Carrey in I Love You Phillip Morris
William Shimell in Certified Copy
Kodi-Smit Mcphee in Let Me In
Riz Ahmed in Four Lions
Mads Mikkelsen in Valhalla Rising

Anonymous said...

Wagner Moura - Elite Squad: The Enemy Within
Mads Mikkelsen - Valhalla Rising
Tahar Rahim - Un prophète
James Gandolfini - Welcome to the Rileys
Jim Broadbent - Another Year
Aaron Eckhart - Rabbit Hole
Rainn Wilson - Super
Stephen Dorff - Somewhere
Peter Stormare - Small Town Murder Songs
Mel Gibson - Edge of Darkness

Anonymous said...

William Shimell in Certified Copy
John C. Reilly and Jonah Hill in Cyrus
Ricardo Darín in Carancho
Christos Sterioglou in Dogtooth
Flavio Parenti in I Am Love
Keir Gilchrist in It’s Kind of a Funny Story
Bob Hoskins in Made in Dagenham
Paul Giamatti in Barney's Version
Jake Gyllenhaal in Love and Other Drugs
Francisco Miguez in The Best Things in the World
Ryan Gosling in All Good Things

Anonymous said...

Riz Ahmed in Four Lions
Michael Douglas in Solitary Man
Martin Sheen in The Way
Jim Carrey in I Love You Phillip Morris
Stellan Skarsgard in King of Devil's Island
Joaquin Phoenix in I'm Still Here
Ryan Reynolds in Buried
Alan Tudyk & Tyler Labine in Tucker And Dale Vs. Evil
Casey Affleck in The Killer Inside Me
Kodi-Smit Mcphee in Let Me In

Anonymous said...

William Munny- Mel Gibson (but Kurt Russell and Liam Neeson would be perfect as well)
Little Bill- Ed Harris (perfect)
English Bob- Charles Dance
Ned Logan- Danny Glover (Don Cheadle and Idris Elba I think they would work too in a Russell or Neeson version but Glover is perfect for the Gibson version)
Beauchamp- Dohmnall Gleeson
The Schofield Kid- Alden Ehrenreich
Directed by Mel Gibson or S. Craig Zahler (in a Russell or Neeson version)

Matt Mustin said...

I just got to the Game of Thrones episode with Tyrion's trial, and Peter Dinklage's performance throughout that whole sequence is, quite possibly, some of the best acting I've ever seen anywhere. I mean that.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I'd love to see Lee Byung-Hun get a special review, it's a performance that only grows with each rewatch.

Grady Tripp said...

Casey Affleck, The Killer Inside Me (my win of 2010!)
Joaquin Phoenix, I'm Still Here

Anonymous said...

Luke Higham

Un Prophete and Dogtooth are 2009, Super had a festival release in 2010, its theatrical release was in 2011 and I Am Love had a festival release in 09 but was theatrically released in 2010.

John Smith said...

Joel Kinnamam-Easy Money
Ranveer Singh- Band Baaja Barat

Henry W said...

What do you guys think are the most emotionally intense performances ever?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Henry:
Al Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon
Takashi Shimura in Ikiru (perhaps not intense in a traditional way, but it's just such powerful work)
Mads Mikkelsen in The Hunt
Marlon Brando in On the Waterfront
Dustin Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy
John Cazale in The Godfather Part II
Robert Blake in In Cold Blood
Richard Burton in Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf

John Smith said...

Henry W: Joaquin Phoenix-The Master, Isabelle Adjani- Possesion, Dennis Hooper-Blue Velvet.

Calvin Law said...

Henry W:

Veronica Cartwright in Alien
DDL in In the Name of the Father
Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon
Hopper in Blue Velvet

Deiner said...

Great job Louis. So, this is the annoying part in which I ask you to check out like ten thousand performances ha ha ha, no but seriously, I love all of them:

- Allison Janney, Ally Sheedy, Charlotte Rampling, Renee Taylor and Shirley Henderson in "Life During Wartime"
- Annette Bening, Naomi Watts and Kerry Washington in "Mother and Child"
- Catherine Keener, Rebecca Hall, Amanda Peet, Ann Morgan Guilbert, Sarah Steele in "Please Give"
- Elle Fanning in "Somewhere"
- Emma Stone in "Easy A"
- Isabelle Huppert in "White Material"
- Jeong-hie Yun in "Poetry"
- Juliette Binoche in "Certified Copy"
- Lesley Manville, Ruth Sheen and Imelda Staunton in "Another Year"
- Manjinder Virk in "The Arbor"
- Nicole Kidman in "Rabbit Hole"
- Sally Hawkins, Miranda Richardson and Rosamund Pike in "Made in Dagenham"
- Tilda Swinton in "I Am Love"
- Zoe Kazan in "The Exploding Girl"

Deiner said...

Also, I know you're not that fond on these other actresses but if you want to give those films a try, it'd be great:

- Gemma Arterton in "Tamara Drewe"
- Gemma Arterton in "The Disappearance of Alice Creed"
- Greta Gerwig in "Greenberg"
- Keira Knightley in "Last Night"

Michael McCarthy said...

A tie for the win? I think that means it's time to break the last one haha.

A few performances to consider other than those suggested so far, I haven't seen any of them so I can't speak to their quality but they seem interesting:

Colin Farrell-Ondine
Ciaran Hinds-The Eclipse
Edward Norton-Leaves of Grass
Ben Stiller-Greenberg

As for the ladies:

Kristen Stewart & Dakota Fanning-The Runaways
Isabelle Huppert-White Material
Kerry Washington-Night Catches Us
Emily Watson-Cemetary Junction (Supporting)

Luke Higham said...

Small Town Murder Songs is a 2011 theatrical release.

And It's Yoon Jeong-Hee in Poetry

Louis: Other Films to Watch
Inception (Re-Watch, you haven't seen it since it first released in 2010)
The Social Network (Same with possible upgrades for Eisenberg and Hammer)
You Don't Know Jack (TV Pacino)
Macbeth (Patrick Stewart)
Temple Grandin (Claire Danes)
Tangled (Prefer it over Frozen)
How To Train Your Dragon
The Illusionist
The Secret World Of Arriety (Studio Ghibli)
Chico & Rita
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (Cannes Golden Palm Winner)
Of Gods And Men (Foreign Language Film Nominee
Incendies (Denis Villenueve - Foreign Langauge Film Nominee)
In A Better World (Foreign Language Film Winner)
Outside The Law
Essential Killing (Volpi Cup Win for Vincent Gallo)
Insidious
The Man From Nowhere
Confessions
Monsters (Gareth Edwards)
Alice In Wonderland
Salt
Tron: Legacy
Unstoppable
The Wolfman
The Way Back (Peter Weir)
The Tempest
Hereafter (Clint Eastwood)
Frankie & Alice
Burlesque
Black Death (Sean Bean)
The Tourist
Heartbeats (Xavier Dolan)
Clash Of The Titans ('RELEASE THE KRAKEN')
Casino Jack (If you're up to it)
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps
The Edge
Youth In Revolt
13 Assassins
Hot Tub Time Machine
Knight And Day
Due Date
Centurion (Fassbender/Cunningham)
The Book Of Eli (Denzel Washington)
Machete
Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time
Date Night
The Last Airbender
The A-Team
Get Him To The Greek
Predators
The Crazies
A Serbian Film
Fred: The Movie
Remember Me
The Princess Of Montpensier
Catfish
Dinner For Schmucks
The Sorcerer's Apprentice
Green Zone
The Next Three Days
Eat Pray Love
Ip Man 2
Frozen
Legend Of The Guardians
Macgruber
Hesher (JGL)
The Losers
Stake Land
You Will Meet A Tall Dark Stranger (Woody Allen)
Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark
Howl
Mysteries Of Lisbon
The Company Men
Brighton Rock
London Boulevard
Burke & Hare
Cemetery Junction

Calvin Law said...

Luke: I imagine 'A Serbian Film' might be too beyond the pale even for Louis (never tried it myself). Other ones seem good choices, though, and thanks for a few more to my own viewing list haha.

Calvin Law said...

Loui: when's Three Billboards coming round your ends? The general release for it seems really weird.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I had it in there for a laugh, especially with Kermode's review. Same with Fred: The Movie. :)

Bryan L. said...

Luke: Just wanted to say thanks for that "Films to Watch". The year 2010 is the blind spot when it comes to movies from this decade since I've only seen about thirty from that year.

Luke Higham said...

Bryan L: Including Lead Actor, as well as the Actress suggestions, there's close to or more than a hundred films there.

Luke Higham said...

Would've included Submarine, Route Irish by Ken Loach and The Whistleblower yet they are 2011 releases.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And if you have time, Carlos starring Edgar Ramirez.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: The longer version as well.

Luke Higham said...

And with Supporting Actor, I hope either Hawkes or Mendelsohn will be upgraded.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Woods-Cop - 4.5(This is essentially a performance making movie from Woods as the film itself is about a generic as it gets however Woods bringing his unhinged style to a cop is definitely something worth seeing just through how effectively he treads through every difficult situation the film puts him in. Woods is always a match no matter how strong the cliche Woods makes it watchable and cohesive to the cop "too hard for even the streets". He's consistently great and got me far more invested in the film than I would have been otherwise simply through how compelling he is to watch.)

Fox - 4(The film itself really is pretty problematic however Fox proves once again his abilities beyond what he is known for and carries the more dramatic elements incredibly well. He creates the right sense of cheerful self-destruction we see much of the time yet finds a real palatable pathos beneath it all. His performance is terrific in every dramatic moment. There are problems though when the film bizarrely goes overtly comedic which strangely enough Fox feels less at home with, probably since it is ill-fitting with his character. Fox isn't bad in these scenes but it takes away a bit from his overall work.)

Bankolé - 4(His performance is essentially made up of various reaction shots that quietly build up who the character is and his relationship in the homestead. Bankolé ends up being quite moving in just so many small moments through his very subtle yet very powerful portrayal of the mostly silent man.)

Fierstein - 4(I would actually say the film should have eliminated the monologues of the film since those feel firmly of the stage where the rest of the film captures enough of a cinematic energy. This extends to Fierstein's performance who feels very much like he's playacting in those scenes. The rest of the time though he's actually quite good in portraying the combination of the more overt flamboyant man against his quieter vulnerabilities that truly define him.)

Woods - The Boost - 4(As Leonard Maltin pointed out for this film this is a bit like Jack Nicholson in The Shining. In that Woods is a little miscast to portray a guy who is slowly unhinged by drugs, since Woods always comes off as a little unhinged to begin with. That makes it so Woods goes basically from 10 to 11. Now when he gets to that eleven though Woods is pretty great in revealing a man completely losing himself and captures that sort of paranoid madness. It ends up carrying the film well though again the path would have been more powerful with a more unexpected performer in the role.)

Louis Morgan said...

Donnadieu - 4(I have to say I really didn't care for this heavily praised film. I will admit I already more or less knew the plot, and maybe that was the problem. That has happened before and I still liked a film. This film just felt like a lifeless progression into misery with a severe banality to the whole thing, which seems was the point however I do not see the point of watching this film. Donnadieu is chilling enough in portraying a completely vapid man who seems as lifeless when smiling with his family as he is when going about planning a murder. There is nothing to his evil which is the point of the character.)

Berveoets - 3.5(I have to say this whole plot seemed odd to man given that I would think you'd be concerned if your girlfriend just vanished without a word. Everyone treating him with side eye seemed a very odd thing to me. Berveoets is decent enough in providing the fairly simple note of the emotional desperation of the character that defines the entirety of his performance after the first act where he just portrays a pretty normal man.)

Cluzet - 3(He's okay here as portraying a completely foolish man in every regard finding though just enough of his own pathos within his unknowing smile.)

Suchet - 3.5(He's good at portraying just the cold determination of the state but finds just enough of a nuance in the role. In there are some effective moments he brings where he alludes to just a touch of humanity in the character, though he portrays while the man pushes himself to cover it up.)

Prosky - 3.5(Enjoyable minor turn from him, where he strikes up some rather endearing chemistry in with Ameche in their scene together making the potentially hard to believe plot point believable.)

Hershey - A World Apart - 4(One of her better performance as she just gives portrayal of passionate indignation with the right subtly yet power to her work. She also though nicely portrays the undercurrent of a more palatable emotional desperation when dealing with her more personal issues related to her daughter.)

Jodi May - A World Apart - 4.5(Very good performance from her in portraying the child's view basically outside of the exact political involvement that defines the adults in the film. She's terrific in one part portraying the very honest and real anguish of dealing with her own parents troubles that comes out in sadness but also anger towards them. May makes her breakdown particularly natural and honest. Furthermore though she makes the most in portraying the gradual understanding of her character mostly through reaction shots of others, that she grants a real potency to.)

Deiner:

I appreciate the suggestions.

Michael:

Eh this one is particularly easy one to rationalize for me since so many of the best moments in Kline's and Palin's performances are playing off of each other.

Calvin:

Hopefully very very soon. Unfortunately though I don't have the slightest clue, and my local theaters have been pretty terrible this year in terms of getting limited releases even after they go pretty wide.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Where would you rank Jodhi May and your placement for her as well.

Louis Morgan said...

#5 in lead.