Thursday, 12 October 2017

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1974

And the Nominees Were Not:

Ken Takakura in The Yakuza


Richard Harris in Juggernaut

David Warner in Little Malcolm and His Struggle Against the Eunuchs

Christopher Lee in The Man With The Golden Gun

Roberts Blossom in The Great Gatsby

68 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Takakura
2. Harris
3. Warner
4. Blossom
5. Lee

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Bruce Dern in The Great Gatsby, Richard Jordan in The Yakuza and Keitel & Kristofferson in Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And thoughts on Goldie Hawn in The Sugarland Express and the other female performances you didn't give thoughts on.

Thoughts on Holger Lowenadler in Lacombe, Lucien.

Your thoughts on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre cast and what did you think of it

Calvin Law said...

1. Takakura
2. Harris
3. Warner
4. Blossom
5. Lee

I don't really remember Blossom so a re-watch may well be in order.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Takakura
2. Warner
3. Harris
4. Blossom
5. Lee

Anonymous said...

1. Takakura
2. Harris
3. Warner
4. Blossom
5. Lee

Matt Cofrancesco said...

Request: Gunnar Bjornstrand in Winter Light

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

1. Takakura
2. Harris
3. Warner
4. Blossom
5. Lee

Charles H said...

1. Takakura
2. Harris
3. Warner
4. Blossom
5. Lee

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I'm really glad Roberts Blossom is finally getting a review, loved him in Home Alone.

Omar Franini said...

1. Takakura
2. Warner
3. Harris
4. Blossom
5. Lee

Louis: I really should rewatch Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore again as the first time i saw i was impressed by Burstyn and i thought she was very good (4,5), but i couldn't find any of the supporting players interesting outside of Lane Bradbury one scene. What are your ratings on Bradbury, Keitel, Kristofferson, and Lutter? Could you repost your rating for Keaton in The Godfather II and Elizabeth MacRae in The Conversation?
While i agree with you on The Night Porter as i find it a bit boring at the beginning and i was not so interested in Bogard story, i have to say i loved Rampling in this, the "Wenn ich mir was wünschen dürft", the reactions in the Opera and the flashback scenes are all great.

As for my request, i still have to made other two requests since i won both both the 2003 lineups; my first request is Toni Servillo in La Grande Bellezza, i have to think about the others.

Maciej said...

1.Takakura
2.Warner
3.Lee
4.Blossom
5.Harris

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: How close were you to giving Coltrane a Wiseau or two for The Circle? Because I laughed my ass off every time he opened his mouth to speak.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on The New Mutants trailer.

RatedRStar said...

1. Takakura
2. Harris
3. Warner
4. Blossom
5. Lee

Henry W said...

Guys, if you could recast the movies nominated this year for Best Picture using actors in their prime during the 1950s, how would you re-cast it and whom would direct? If you don't want to do some pictures, you don't need to.

Anonymous said...

Henry W:
1950's Chinatown, directed by Charles Laughton:
Jake Gittes: Robert Mitchum
Evelyn Mullray: Shelley Winters
Noah Cross: Edward G. Robinson
Man With Knife: Charles Laughton

Anonymous said...

Louis: your top 20 Jeff Bridges acting moments

Anonymous said...

Louis: And your top 20 Richard Jordan acting moments

JackiBoyz said...

1. Takakura
2. Warner
3. Harris
4. Blossom
5. Lee

RatedRStar said...

I am about to watch Juggernaut right now, I am very intrigued by it.

Calvin Law said...

Part 16 of Twin Peaks completely floored me. So many great moments, I don't even know where to begin. Two farewells, one so heartbreaking and emotional, one so darkly hilarious and satisfying. Every character just being awesome. And that brilliant ending.

Giuseppe Fadda said...

Part 16 is my favorite episode of Twin Peaks ever. MacLachlan, Watts, Dern and Fenn were all flat-out brilliant, and the rest of the cast was awesome as well.

Calvin Law said...

Giuseppe: everyone was on top form. I have a particular fondness for MIKE's 'Finally' and Rodney's 'these people are under a lot of stress'. I'd say Coop's return was the most heartwarming return, though closely followed by Norma/Ed/Otis Redding.

Calvin Law said...

And yeah, Dern was great. Bumped her up my rankings a few spots with that scene.

Giuseppe Fadda said...

Norma's and Ed's storyline in the third season is just lovely. And Nadine's conversation with Ed is one of the most touching moments of the revival.

Charles H said...

I kinda hope Strasberg will be raised to a 5.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I’m hoping Gazzo and Duvall get upgraded. Ford in The Conversation as well.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Wasn't Gazzo a 4 originally.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Luke: Gazzo deserves a 5.

Calvin Law said...

Gazzo deserves to be much higher, I agree.

Luke Higham said...

Robert and Calvin: I agree that he should go higher.

RatedRStar said...

I am fine with Gazzo being a little higher and maybe Lee Strasberg although in terms of the official Oscar lineup I do not think that either should be higher than Jeff Bridges.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Gazzo should at least be a 4.5, he has the second most tragic arc in the film after Cazale.

Charles H said...

I'd say Gazzo & Strasberg both deserve upgrades.

Luke Higham said...

Rating Predictions
Takahara - 5
Harris - 5 (From the trailer, his performance looks pretty gripping)
Warner - 4.5
Blossom - 4.5
Lee - 3.5/4

Anonymous said...

I don't expect Gazzo to get upgraded to a 5. A 4,5 seems more likely.

Anonymous said...

So, the next X-Men movie is going to be a horror film? I'm intrigued.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I'm so glad Fox have gone ballsy in recent years, especially in comparison to Marvel Studios (Though hopefully Thor: Ragnarok will change that). I'm certainly intrigued with the horror vibe.

94dfk1 said...

Luke: Me too, and hopefully X-Men: Dark Phoenix does the story justice. Taiki Watiti seems like a great fit for Marvel since he does already does comedy very well.

Luke Higham said...

94dfk1: I'm not gonna get my hopes up on that one but I'm looking forward to whatever else they have to offer.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

I'll be more or less covering Dern in Blossom's review.

Jordan - 4(A role that could have been much more of a throwaway if it were not for Jordan in the role who just seems to excel with anything that he does. Here Jordan brings a similair confidence cool in his early scenes that he brought to Coyle. He's effective in the way, just through his reactions really, in creating the sense of concern and care for the family making his revelation scene very natural. Jordan is terrific in that scene being quite moving in revealing the man's conscience, and makes a strong impact in his brief screentime.)

Keitel - 3.5(Keitel's pretty entertaining in his first scene bringing this such an endearing dopey charm to the role. He then is still comedic yet also rather unnerving in revealing the sheer rage of the character. Keitel's particularly astute as in the moment he manages go dark, as you'd except, but stays light just enough keeping the moment from damaging the tone of the film.)

Kristofferson - 4(Just downright terrific chemistry with Burstyn particularly in terms of creating every phase of their relationship. In that he brings the right overt direct charm in his early scenes of attempted courting, then cools down enough in portraying just the natural likability of the man, though know while putting less of an overtly appealing front. He's great though in creating the flaws of the relationship in a natural way, by making the frustrations of the man feel so natural, and wholly earned. This makes his final declaration of love scene particularly affecting and rather sweet.)

Hawn - (She does much to make the film work given that Spielberg proves his technical mastery already here, but the characters are technically fairly thin. Thankfully Hawn is there for a strong infusion of sheer charm and character from her very presence. She does this well though and finds a way into realizing the character in a natural fashion. She does well to portray frankly the stupidity of the character without becoming one note. She's good though in showing the simplicity of the woman's mindset that makes her actions wholly understandable to the character, though ridiculous to everyone else.)

Lowenadler - 4(I must say that NBR win is a tad surprising however this is a good performance and along with Clement I find he makes up for the perhaps too distant lead. Lowenadler though is very good in his role portraying more of an overt reality and portrays well the very genuine concern creating the right tension within his own performance to properly establish the nature of the occupation.)

Clement - (Similarly to her onscreen father she creates the potential investment into the actual story by so effectively revealing the very real turmoil of being in the occupied France, while she's also quite good in creating the right type of chemistry with Blaise. She plays it well by making a real affection yet a certain reservation within it that is properly mindful of the complications of the relationship particularly at the end of the film.)

Louis Morgan said...

Duvall - (Duvall always has interesting screen presence to say the very least which works quite well here in creating a real winning chemistry with Carradine in the film. She goes beyond the relationship though as within her sort of meek surface she portrays so well this underlying desire for more that slowly grows as the film proceeds. She's particularly heartbreaking in the end of the film portraying incredibly first the intensity of the most direct grief, then this rather harrowing resignation to basically being lost in the world.)

Melato - (Like Gianni I have nothing against her performance, but it doesn't make me enjoy the film anymore. She is good in being wholly insufferable in the first act, then is effective in portraying completely submissive. It doesn't make those scenes any more enjoyable, but I can't fault her work at all.)

Chiles - (Perhaps she should have played Daisy? I will say given the limits of her role I was rather impressed by what she did within the margins and made for a magnetic presence for a character that could have easily been lost in the shuffle.)

There is not much to be said for the cast of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the women victims are pretty good in portraying the fear however they and the men are pretty bland and awkward outside of the moments. The "family" actors are properly creepy but they are also perhaps just a little too ridiculous at times. The star is Tobe Hooper's direction that makes the film feel so vivid and lived in that makes every moment of it so creepy. It is not an enjoyable experience, as I would qualify a film like Halloween, however it is very effective in terms of putting you into the moment.

The trailer looks okay in general, perhaps a touch generic despite the X influence, though I am always happy to see someone trying to expand the genre a bit.

Omar:

Lutter - 3
Bradbury - 3.5
Keaton - 3.5
MacRae - 3.5

Robert:

He actually may be worthy of a Wiseau, though the funniest moment dealing with his character I wouldn't say had anything to do with his performance.

Henry:

This year? or do you mean the lineup for 2016?

Anonymous:

Bridges:

1. The Shootout - Hell or High Water
2. Final confrontation - Hell or High Water
3. Slurred speech - Thunderbolt and Lightfoot
4. Meeting Lebowski - The Big Lebowski
5. Finale Duet - The Fabulous Baker Boys
6. Guilt - The Iceman Cometh
7. Donny's Ashes - The Big Lebowski
8. The American dream - Tucker
9. The plane - Fearless
10. Retirement prospects - Hell or High Water
11. Ending - The Fabulous Baker Boys
12. Calling his son - Crazy Heart
13. Arrival - The Iceman Cometh
14. Bad boxer - Fat City
15. Meeting Thunderbolt - Thunderbolt and Lightfoot
16. Destroying peoples - Hell or High Water
17. A bit of understanding - The last Picture Show
18. Not a one night stand - The Fabulous Baker Boys
19. On the preacher - Hell or High Water
20. After the robbery - Thunderbolt and Lightfoot

Jordan:

1. "Not both of us, not all of us" - Gettysburg
2. Gethsemane - Gettsburg
3. Forgiveness - Les Miserables
4. Lineages - Gettysburg
5. Preparing the charge - Gettysburg
6. Re sentencing - Les Miserables
7. Some bad News - Friends of Eddie Coyle
8. Final meeting with Javert - Les Miserables
9. First meeting with Eddie - The Friends of Eddie Coyle
10. The truth - The Yakuza
11. The court - Les Miserables
12. The first arrest - The Friends of Eddie Coyle
13. On evolution - Gettysburg
14. Learning of Javert's "mistake" - Les Miserables
15. Final informant meeting - The Friends of Eddie Coyle
16. Meeting Javert as Mayor - Les Miserables
17. Second arrest - The Friends of Eddie Coyle
18. Pledge to Fantine - Les Miserables
19. Protest - Romero
20. Meeting Duncan - Dune

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

"I am the FBI" is one of the greatest and most joyful moments in all of fictional television.

Anonymous said...

Louis: He's talking about 1974, I believe.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis Morgan:Coltrane's line reading of "DEATH threats, Mae" might be the single hardest laugh I've had all year. But yeah, his final scene was hilarious not due to him.

Louis Morgan said...

Very well then.

Henry:

The Conversation directed by Alfred Hitchcock:

Harry Caul: James Stewart
Meredith: Grace Kelly
Stan: Jack MacGowran
Bernie Moran: Martin Balsam
Ann: Vera Miles
Mark: Farley Granger
Martin Stett: Jack Klugman
The Director: Lee J. Cobb

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your winners for 1935, 1949 and 1974.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

1935:

Director: John Ford - The Informer
Production Design: Bride of Frankenstein
Sound Editing: Bride of Frankenstein
Sound Mixing: Mutiny on the Bounty
Score: The Informer
Editing: 39 Steps
Visual Effects: Bride of Frankenstein
Costume Design: The Black Room
Cinematography: Bride of Frakenstein
Makeup and Hairstyling: Bride of Frankenstein
Song: "Cheek to Cheek" - Top Hat
Original Screenplay: The Ghost Goes West
Adapted Screenplay: Bride of Frakenstein

1949:

Director: Carol Reed - The Third Man
Production Design: Battleground
Sound Editing: Battleground
Sound Mixing: The Third Man
Score: The Third Man
Editing: The Third Man
Visual Effects: Battleground
Costume Design: The Heiress
Cinematography: The Third Man
Makeup and Hairstyling: Kind Hearts and Coronets
Song: "The Headless Horseman" - The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
Original Screenplay: The Third Man (The novel was just part of the process of writing the screenplay)
Adapted Screenplay: The Heiress

1974:

Director: Roman Polanski - Chinatown
Production Design: The Godfather Part II
Sound Editing: The Conversation
Sound Mixing: The Conversation
Score: The Conversation (Very Tough call for this year)
Editing: The Conversation
Visual Effects: Young Frankenstein
Costume Design: Chinatown
Cinematography: The Godfather Part II
Makeup and Hairstyling: Phantom of the Paradise
Song: "The Hell of It" - Phantom of the Paradise
Original Screenplay: Chinatown
Adapted Screenplay: The Godfather Part II

RatedRStar said...

Saw Juggernaut, it is very close to being a hidden gem, I think the film starts quite dull with the introduction of some indispensable characters (minus Harris biscuit bomb intro) but I would say the moment Harris and his team get on the ship, the film becomes a pretty great tense thriller, with the police side of the story being gripping, especially thanks to a very good Ian Holm performance.

RatedRStar said...

Harris - 4.5
Holm - 4
Hopkins - 3.5
Hemmings - 2.5
Cusack - 3.5
Jones - 3
Knight - 2.5
Mortimer - 3.5
Sharif - 3.5
um the Spanish Waiter lol - 3

RatedRStar said...

Actually ignore that last one he clearly isn't Spanish I remember he said he was born in Africa but of Asian ethnicity so sorry about that one.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: If you ever start watching anime, which ones do you think you'll start off with first.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: Definitely not Pokemon, it'll drive him insane.

Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass, Attack On Titan, Full Metal Alchemist and maybe Ghost In The Shell.

Robert MacFarlane said...

In terms of suggesting a "starter" anime to someone who doesn't know the genre, Paranoia Agent would definitely be my pick. After that, Cowboy Bebop, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and the 2003 Fullmetal Alcehmist are "essentials".

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Luke: Aside from the ones you mentioned, I'd recommend Dragon Ball, My Hero Academia, Assassination Classroom and Blue Exorcist to him.

Anonymous said...

I'll recommend Black Lagoon to him. The dub is pretty good. I'll never get over the fact that this character shares the same voice as Gohan from the Ocean dub of Dragon Ball Z:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2X36EyvDo8&list=PLGf-mls3A-cdoX1mcWGexpbwMG0o1KOSa&index=8
Man, Saffron Henderson has range.

Anonymous said...

If Louis watches Dragon Ball, I wonder if he'll go with the dub or the sub. Personally, I would only recommend the dub for Kai.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I... would steer clear of most stuff like Dragon Ball, Louis. Too much time investment, and more than likely not your thing.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I don't know about Attack on Titan. Don't think Louis would like it.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I only had it as a suggestion, since I've read it's one of the more acclaimed Anime shows in recent times, but if it's not that great then I'm sure he'll enjoy the rest. I've seen bits and pieces of them and a few episodes of Death Note, which is pretty great so far.

Anonymous said...

Luke: Watched those episodes in Japanese or English?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I watched it in English, though I'll see it in Japanese eventually.

Calvin Law said...

So I have no idea what to think about the Twin Peaks finale, honestly I thought Part 17 could've been the finale in itself (which was a great episode btw, from One-Punch Man to the good ol' reunions to Coop being ol' Coop). I still liked it a lot though, MacLachlan and Lee were great, and though some threads appear to be unresolved I still thought it brought the series to a fitting close.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Oh, and he should check out the anime One Punch Man. It's quite entertaining and hilarious, and it only has 13 half hour episodes out.

Anonymous said...

I'll also recommend The Vision of Escaflowne.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Give Part 18 time as the more I thought about it the more I ended up loving it, as Lynch sort of gives you the safe way out in Part 17, but sends you down a deeper rabbit hole if you continue past, and like Cooper try to solve everything.

Tahmeed:

I don't think I'll start watching any animes any time soon, other than the films, as I still have plenty of well regarded live action television shows I'd probably get to first, but I appreciate all the recommendations.

BRAZINTERMA Prêmio Fictício said...

5 - Lee
4 - Blossom
3 - Harris
2 - Warner
1 - Takakura