Saturday 26 August 2017

Alternate Best Actor 1992: Wesley Snipes in The Waterdance

Wesley Snipes did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Raymond Hill in The Waterdance.

Wesley Snipes before embarking on his somewhat ill-fated time as a leading man began as a character actor. This role could almost seem as a bit of bridge, as it allows him to deliver what he became known for while giving perhaps more substantial character to work with. Here Snipes technically plays the secondary story to Eric Stoltz's Joel, yet even with the secondary focus perhaps Snipes's story as Raymond is a bit more potent in some ways. We first meet Snipes as forces his introduction to Joel and his married girlfriend Anna (Helen Hunt). Snipes though is quite charismatic actually in presenting really Raymond as someone who perhaps lays it on a bit thick yet does so rather effectively. Snipes uses this to allude to more than just being a charming sort in these moments those. Snipes puts a bit more emphasis on it than that in creating certain bluster with an real charm though that suggests more about Raymond using this as his own way to overcome his own difficulty accepting his condition. Snipes lays it on thick in these moments, and as he should as he shows Raymond as a guy forcing himself to try to basically be something he's not which is someone completely comfortable with his situation.

In the early scenes Snipes is terrific actually in setting up Raymond particularly in regard to when the conversation turns to his wife early on. When speaking on the matter Snipes brings such a false confidence in every word portraying an desperation in Raymond that he's doing all that he can to cover it up. This is in contrast to when we actually meet Raymond's wife who only shows up, despite his earlier claims of her great affection for him, to try to force him to sign divorce papers. Snipes's quite good in the scene though as he plays it a bit as Raymond still trying to put on his charm as he avoids facing her directly. He's rather moving actually though as Snipes reveals this facade buckling in the moment, as he depicts the attempt to maintain the charm in the man yet he quietly reveals the overwhelming sadness within the man as he still tries to connect to his family even as they are disregarding him. As they basically abandon him Snipes is terrific as he reveals the collapse of any solace in faking any happiness, revealing just the angry anguish underneath the man as he finally fully faces his own situation.

Although Joel has a form of support, the only support ends up  being the other guys in the hospital in particular the injured biker Bloss (William Forsythe) despite their original antagonism due to Raymond's boisterous nature. This relationship could seem contrived but Forsythe and Snipes make it wholly believable through the unique chemistry they strike up. Past that initial antagonism the two of them are effective in the way each show that the men connect on their mutual misery by supporting each other as they essentially say "screw the world" together. The two of them find a certain warmth actually within the anger just through the way they share it together, and this friendship that develops ends up being the most poignant element within the film. The difficult connection is earned by both actors. I love their final scene together where they come together after Raymond has gone through a particularly rough patch. Snipes is wonderful by finding Raymond completely without his bravado showing just the modest man searching for happiness beneath it all. Bloss offers a bit of comfort by reaffirming an old, perhaps minor, success with a woman. Snipes brings just the right bit of confidence back in the man in the moment, and suggests that he hasn't given back to the delusion but rather almost fakes it a bit in an earnest appreciation for what his friend has done for him. Snipes and Forsythe, despite given secondary focus and less importance, quietly steal their film in their convincing and heartfelt depiction of two unlikely friends finding solace in one another.

84 comments:

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Optimus Prime's death scene in the Transformers animated movie.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Do you plan on watching Death Note?

Calvin Law said...

Really enjoyed this film. Snipes was terrific and I completely agree with your summation on how he managed to be so charismatic and boisterous but with that underlying pain.

Cast for a 2010s version of The Waterdance Louis? I'm thinking Michael B. Jordan would be perfect for this role.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on Forsythe and the rest of the cast.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: thoughts and rating for Snipes in Demolition Man.

Calvin Law said...

Saw Logan Lucky. Enjoyed it a lot even if I kind of disliked the editing and some of the jokes didn't hit that hard.

Tatum: 3.5
Driver: 4 (MVP)
Craig: 4
Keough: 3.5
Macfarlane: 3 (though I think Steve Coogan would have been perfect)
Gleeson and Quaid: 3
Waterston: 3
Swank: 3 (I thought she was completely fine, I only thought her entrance was way too late)

Robert MacFarlane said...

The editing on Logan Lucky was my favorite of the year. It's like I watched a different movie than everyone else here.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your ratings for George Clooney in Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind, Jake Gyllenhaal in October Sky and Robert Duvall in Joe Kidd and The Godfather Part II.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Well as a scene there isn't anything wrong with it, other than focusing on Daniel, who there is no reason to ever care about. It's more than little problematic though given the legion of, who are these guys characters, as they murder another old favorite among all the others they randomly killed. The only solace being they at least gave a little time to his death, but still the moment comes after being so callous with all the other deaths.

Robert:

I saw it.

Calvin:

Joel: Dominic Cooper
Anna: Lizzy Caplan
Bloss: Karl Urban

Jordan would be the perfect choice.

That's one I'd need really to re-watch.

Tahmeed:

Forsythe - 4(It was nice seeing him in this type of role since usually he plays such vicious heavies most of the time. He's quite good here though in actually starting with that type a little bit and quietly revealing the more caring side of the character in a very honest and moving way. Again though what stands out the most is that chemistry with Snipes, and what they do through their scenes together.)

Luke:

3.5, 3.5, 3.5, 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Death Note and the cast.

Louis Morgan said...

Well with Death Note, I will say there are certainly more boring bad movies, but it's still quite a bad movie. I say this as someone who knows nothing about the source material. As it was it seemed a bizarre combination of westernization with randomly holding onto style that I assume has some place from the source, like L's love of sweets. The moments that seem to want to create perhaps the world of something more overtly stylistic feel very odd when at other times the film is trying to make it take place in some real world setting. It tries to have it both ways and fails rather miserably to balance the act. I imagine it probably should have either fully embraced taking it down a completely detached place, just keep the central concept, or gone fully stylized. Of course this odd style and tone are only part of the problems as the film also seems as though, again I don't know how it is in the original, to cram in hours of material in a single hour and half given the film's very rushed pace. The problems don't stop there.

Wolff - 1(And here's a huge problem. Wolff is downright awful in the role, but the great thing is that's for multiple reasons. On one hand this is just bad acting in a very straight forward way particularly this one scream he does that seems like something out of a high school play. He has moments like that throughout that are just bad in the plain old definition of the word. It continues to be a problem though as he, and really the film, fail to really create what exactly Light is suppose to be. There are times where he plays it as just this petulant nerd fed up the world, other's as just a straight sociopath, others as this egomaniac, others as this guy who trying to do the right thing. There is no consistency other than Wolff is equally terrible at realizing every form Light takes due to the writing and his wildly inconsistent approach even within that. Also what were they thinking with that hair?)

Louis Morgan said...

Stanfield - 3(I really felt sorry for him since it seemed like he was desperately trying to make the film's tone work. He seems as though he's running through performance hurdles in every scene by how hard he's trying to be kind of light and engaging making some sort of surreal style to his performance, while attempting to ground it in some sort genuine emotion as it relates to the situation. He tries his best to bridge the gap that exists in the film, but I can't say he is able to pull it off. In fact he ends up being swollen up by it in his final scene where he's more than a little iffy himself.)

Qualley - 2(Okay her performance is one I won't say was really entirely her fault given how oddly her character is written and the fact that she had to somehow make the scenes with Wolff work together. They have no chemistry though and I think the film wanted the romance to be believable. It ended up being so hollow that I would imagine that was intentional, but I don't think it was. On her own she struggles with the writing that randomly makes her character an overt sociopath herself, and this really wasn't seen in her performance up until that point. The script does her no favors by creating an expectation to be several things at once, which she is unable to deliver on.)

Dafoe - 3.5(The best part of the film to be sure as Dafoe's voice is just a great fit for any maniacal demon to be honest. Dafoe though manages to capture a great darkly comedic bent in his delivery and makes the most out of every one of his lines. He's the highlight of the film to be sure as he manages to be always entertaining and perhaps shows one way the film could have gone.)

Whigham - 3(The funny thing is I feel he and Dafoe were representatives of the two competing styles within the film, with Dafoe taking on the more overtly stylistic and comedic approach, while Whigham offers a deadly serious performance. Whigham I feel offers some real needed conviction to his scenes and always suggests that maybe if it was reworked to a more low key supernatural horror film it could have worked.)

Robert MacFarlane said...

I'd go with a 4 for a Stanfield, but I'm also a huge fan of L from the anime. That said, he was severely hurt by the writing. I was baffled the film seemed so contemptful towards L as a character. Stanfield saved a lot of it by at least selling the odd, conflicting emotional beats. His last scene was bad, but you can only do so much when your director wants you to laugh like a maniac in the worst possible moment. It's clear he wanted to play L from the anime, keeping every single mannerism and quirk, yet Wingard wanted him to be Pacino in Heat.

I was even more baffled that the film bent over backward to absolve Light of all guilt and pin the blame on everyone else (Mia, L, Ryuk). Why on Earth would anyone adapt Death Note and NOT make the protagonist a sociopath?

Deiner said...

Louis: very random question, but what are your thought and ratings on Julia Stiles, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Larisa Oleynik in "10 Things I Hate About You"?

I haven't watched "Death Note" (the anime) yet but I've heard it's wonderful. It doesn't surprise me that the movie is shit though.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: I urge you to watch the anime Louis, as much of it is indeed one of the most outstanding shows I've ever seen. The film, judging by what I've heard of it, is a complete bastardization of rather masterful source material.
Granted, I consider the show unadaptable in live action form, but I've yet to see the Japanese films.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I think there are many ways Death Note could work in an American live action version, just not directed by the guy who made Blair Witch. My preferred idea is as an anthology series, with the first season being an adaptation of the series and the rest of it just going nuts with the concept each season.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: I am big fan of most of Death Note, heck I reckon I could have played L we have the same hair and pale skin lol but I would say the anime is worth watching and is terrific.....well, the first half of it is, when....that happens and 2 other characters are introduced I think it becomes less interesting and thats the general consensus most would agree.

Anonymous said...

Louis: your top 20 woody harrelson and ben foster acting moments

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Robert: I think that's a pretty good idea. My primary reservation stems from the fact that the actor playing Light has to be pitch-perfect in portraying his numerous complexities, and I'm pretty stumped when it comes to thinking of any actors who could pull it off.

Louis: There's a ton of spam in the comment section of the Braveheart supporting reviews that you may want to delete.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Also, have you seen The Iron Giant? It was one of my favorite animated films growing up.

Michael McCarthy said...

Regarding Logan Lucky, I still feel like everyone on this blog would be giving him a 5 if more of his performance had been left as a surprise.

Louis: Is Hanks still a 4.5 for Road to Perdition? Because I noticed you didn't list any of his scenes from that film in his Top 20.


RIP Tobe Hooper

Luke Higham said...

RIP Tobe Hooper

Luke Higham said...

Michael: I think he forgot Road To Perdition.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Out of all of the films you've seen Dicaprio in, which time period of those films do you think he fit the best? He doesn't really seem like a guy from the eras depicted in Shutter Island and Revolutionary Road.

Luke Higham said...

94dfk1: The 1980s.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Tahmeed: The thing about Light is that there really isn't that much complexity to him. His character arc ended with the murder of Naomi Misora. From there on he was a cackling villain. But what he lacked in complexity he made up for in sheer hatefulness. We kept watching because we wanted to see him get his comeuppance. In a live action version, a more psychological approach might be in order. Narcissistic Personality Disorder would explain a lot of his actions, and would be a great angle for a more grounded version. In addition, social privilege should be emphasized. Light needs to be spoiled without ever realizing it himself. My personal choice for an American Light is Joe Keery.

Calvin Law said...

Michael: I regret watching the trailers, for sure, but the more I think about the film the more I like it. I'm glad they didn't spoil some of the more dramatic beats of the film, which I actually thought worked incredibly well.

Calvin Law said...

Also, I'm bumping Driver and Craig up to 4.5's.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Tobe Hooper

Louis: What do you reckon to the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

Charles H said...

I agree with Tahmeed that Louis should totally watch Death Note series. It's one of my favorite shows of all time. The movie was a lackluster, poor representation from the source material in my opinion.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I recommend the manga over the anime. The anime was good, but the manga had better atmosphere and tone. Also a much better fate for Light.

Omar Franini said...

1. Wise
2. Greene
3. Snipes
4. Todd
5. Bowie

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I've been looking over the 2014 Supporting overall and Mark Strong's missing for The Imitation Game. If I remember correctly, he was a 3.5.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: your thoughts on James Wong Howe as a cinematographer?

Louis Morgan said...

Deiner:

Gordon-Levitt - 2.5(There's nothing really terrible about his performance here but he's actually somewhat bland especially compared some of his later work. To be honest with you my affection for the film essentially begins and ends with Ledger, though Gordon-Levitt isn't really bad by any measure.)

Stiles - 2.5(The more one sees of Stiles the more obvious her approach becomes and it unfortunately feels quite obvious why she's basically faded out by now. There just so many exact tics that she kind of does in every performance, which I'll admit work reasonably decently here for this particular role, the scowl, the confused disgust do fit the whole Katerina style, but it does become a bit thin after awhile.)

Oleynik - 2.5(Very much like Gordon-Levitt to be honest.)

Tahmeed:

I've seen parts of the Iron Giant, and I really should see the whole thing one of these days.

Michael:

He's still a 4.5, just slipped my mind and his final scene with Newman really should have been on the list.

94dk1:

He's as contemporary as they come.

RatedRStar:

I've only seen parts of it, but I recall it being rather effective in its seedy, and disturbing low key style.

Anonymous:

Harrelson:

1. Watching the tape - True Detective
2. His family comes to visit him - True Detective
3. Finding the "killer" - True Detective
4. Dave's Daughters bring him Clothes - Rampart
5. Accidental frag - The Thin Red Line
6. Goodbye to his wife - True Detective
7. suicide note - The Edge of Seventeen
8. Ending the interview - True Detective
9. A bad person - True Detective
10. Watching his family - Rampart
11. Final talk with Rust - True Detective
12. "Peace is for queers - Seven Psychopaths
13. Making the plan with Rust - True Detective
14. Arguing his views - Rampart
15. Killing - Out of the Furnace
16. "Get out of the car" - The Edge of Seventeen
17. Fighting Rust - True Detective
18. "You don't understand" - No Country For Old Men
19. Coming alone - Seven Psychopaths
20. Confronting his mistress - True Detective

Foster:

11. "Lord of the plains" - Hell or High Water
12. First personal delivery - The Messenger
13. "want a comic book?" - the Program
14. "TEN OF ME" - Hell or High Water
15. "This town is gonna burn" - 3:10 to Yuma
16. Gunfight - Ain't Them Bodies Saints
17. Comforting the family - The Messenger
18. Fake informant - 3:10 to Yuma
19. Never tested positive - The Program
20. Letting the family have their moment - Ain't Them Bodies Saints

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

I'd say his work is in two sides in that his color work, though not bad, is fairly standard though certainly more than decent cinemascope work in general. His work in say Picnic or An Old Man and the Sea isn't bad, but is definitely a step down from his best work in Black and White. In Black and White his ability was widely prevalent delivering some of the best work in mainstream Hollywood films throughout the period. Although obviously there were differences depending on who he worked with but a consistent factor was the consistency of his work. He creates the more epic representations of the stage of Yankee Doodle Dandy, or the moody atmosphere of King's Row. His best work perhaps came later though with his dynamic moody shadows, particularly the eye glass glint on Lancaster, in Sweet Smell of Success, and his incredible work in Hud where he captured a grandeur, yet an isolation, a beauty yet a starkness in the old west setting.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Claudia's theme from Unforgiven.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Claudia Theme's - (It's a beautiful piece from its melancholy intro, that is so perfect in its simple single guitar staccato. It wonderful builds though as it slowly introduces an underlying string to amplify the central voice until it builds with the orchestra taking over in in such stunning harmony. I'd say it is one of the most iconic themes from the 90's and deservedly so. It stands on its own as simply a marvelous piece yet it also so strongly invokes the idea of Munny's wife, which is some sense of pure goodness, though something now gone only remaining in memory.)

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Wonder Woman's theme.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis, what's your thoughts on Francis Magee on Game of Thrones? I just watched his last episode and I was kind of surprised how much I'd grown to like him, because I found his exit pretty heartbreaking.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Well in a time where there aren't many memorable themes, non of the Marvel themes really resonate beyond just fulfilling the general idea of "heroic", it stands out as what could eventually be a bit of iconic music. From just a from a bar you know exactly what it is and who it is for, and quite honestly it was probably single handily the best thing in Batman v Superman, since it very successfully translated to the solo film. Although the theme might not initially what you peg as Wonder Woman, given her mythic background, yet the kinetic energy and power of the electric amplified song somehow feels just right to capture the style of the character.

Matt:

One of the great unsung heroes in the series when it comes to the acting. Magee is brilliant in his few scenes offering first a wry sense of humor, and just a generally endearing earthiness in his early scenes with Tyrion. Later on though he offers such a surprising heart of a very particular sort. He manages to not loosen on the roughness in fact he plays into it as he takes on Arya, yet he manages to find warmth within his direct and blunt treatment of her always keeping the underlying truth that he's doing it for her own good. His singular scene of describing the name, is a particularly powerful scene as in the moment Magee conjures up all the pain, anger, and just a little bit of satisfaction of that memory. I agree his final scene is heartbreaking since he made Yoren such a three dimensional, and lovable rogue in his brief screen time.

Louis Morgan said...

Also I rather loved that episode, it was almost as half as good as that Twin Peaks episode, trust me that's a compliment.

Calvin Law said...

Your thoughts on the season finale Louis, and top 10 actors of the season?

Anonymous said...

Louis: and your MVP of the episode.

Louis Morgan said...

Well as usual I will start with the negative. I'm not quite sure the intention of the montage relating to Jon's true parentage, which doesn't quite make sense in the name part, over layed with a sequence relating to incest. That was a bit questionable and I'm not sure what they were getting at there. Also the revelation involving the Arya/Sansa story, which I liked a lot, but it did make the scene in the last episode not make a whole lot of sense. Still I loved that Sansa's IQ did not fall to season 1 levels after all, and I rather loved that old switcheroo, which I thought was a fitting end to the schemer whose student finally surpassed him. The meeting for the truce I found appropriately tense and complicated though for a moment I thought they had just made Euron lamer than he already was. Still I quite liked the scene, and though I know some have complained of the call backs in the conversations I actually think that's quite a natural thing to talk about. I enjoyed the interactions particularly the one between Tyrion and Cersei that nicely reminded me of their dynamic in season 2, and Jamie's final scene with Cersei. I was overjoyed that Alfie Allen finally was allowed to do something this season and he did not disappoint. It was all topped off for me with that final scene that appropriately brought the horror of the White Walkers again, something I thought was a little missing at times in the previous episode. On the whole I really enjoyed the season but I still think this should have been a ten episode season, as it would have been all the richer for it.

Give me a little bit of time to sort out the top ten.

Anonymous:

Tough call but I'd say leaning toward Headey, that might have been Gillen's best scene in the series though.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the mule story and barber shop scenes from Mississippi Burning.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: your cast for a 2010s version of Street Fighter.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: For Film Thoughts.

Your rating and thoughts on Game Of Thrones: Season 7

Omar Franini said...

Louis: your thoughts on the last episode of Twin Peaks?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Loved that finale. The final scene in particular was simply astonishing. While I do have some issues with that montage and the incest being shown simultaneously, the rest of the episode more than made up for it.

Also, the entire cast was on point for this episode. Gillen, Headey, Allen, Coster-Waldau, Turner, (and for once this season) Dinklage were in top form. Gun to my head, I'd say the MVP was Gillen.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your ranking of the Game of Thrones seasons so far. My own ranking is-

4
3
2
6
7
1
5

Robert MacFarlane said...

Episode MVP for me was either Heady or Allen. As for season rankings:

3 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 2 > 7 > 5

Season 4 would be higher if not for having the single worst scene in the entire series. You know the one.

Anonymous said...

Is it really true that Lena Headey and Jerome Flynn are not allowed to be in the same scene/set together in case something kicks off?

Luke Higham said...

I loved the finale. The final scene was tremendous and my MVP Award for the episode goes to Gillen/Headey.

My top 5 for the season are:
1. Coster-Waldau
2. Harington
3. Rigg
4. Headey
5. McCann

Luke Higham said...

HM: Cunningham/Dormer/Flynn/Dinklage

Giuseppe Fadda said...

I loved the finale as well. My complaints are the same as Louis' but overall I thought it was terrific. The whole season was not quite flawless and it was a little bit rushed, but I still loved it as its strengths easily overshadowed its weaknesses for me.

My ranking of the seasons: 4 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 5

My top 10 for the season:

1. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
2. Diana Rigg
3. Lena Headey
4. Kit Harington
5. Sophie Turner
6. Peter Dinklage
7. Liam Cunningham
8. Rory McCann
9. Conleth Hill
10. Jerome Flynn

I also really liked Alfie Allen and Carice van Houten (who didn't have much screen-time but I loved everything she did). Everyone was fine really, save for Pilou Asbaek (though I blame the writing more than I blame him) and Isaac Hemsptead-Wright (who was downright terrible).

Luke Higham said...

Turner's my #10, She was very good for most of the season though I think she stood out more in the finale with Littlefinger's Trial/Execution.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

The Mule Story is a terrific scene for Hackman's acting in particular yet it is an effective scene in creating the somber shameful understanding, yet never an excuse, of where a certain, but not the only, type of hate can develop from.

The Barber shop scene can be looked at perhaps as a potential problem in the film in that it has that certain quality, Edward Zwick would be known for, where perhaps it tries get a bit too much a thrill while delivering its very serious minded message. As it stands on its own away from that idea though it certainly is a viscerally effective scene, again Hackman's performance is key, as is Dourif, in delivering the blunt brutality of the moment, in sort of the "righteous" torture scene.

Calvin:

1. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
2. Lena Headey
3. Diana Rigg
4. Rory McCann
5. Liam Cunningham
6. Richard Dormer
7. Jerome Flynn
8. Sophie Turner
9. Peter Dinklage
10. Paul Kaye

Hmm there are a few ways to go about this, but I'll try for the best possible.

Guile: Boyd Holbrook
Bison: Mads Mikkelsen
Chun-Li: Fay BingBing
Ken: Charlie Cox
Ryu: Yosuke Kubozuka
Cammy: Tamsin Egerton
Dhalsim: Gordon Warnecke
Simon Callow as himself
Zangief: Hafpor Julius Bjornsson
Balrog: Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
Sagat: Joe Taslim

directed by Gareth Evans.

Omar:

Well the episode really had everything a gunfight between an accountant and murderous hillbillies, death by electrical explosion followed by the evilest father of all time reacting to it, the height of Dale Cooper(MacLachlan delivering yet another brilliant performance, and working his way further up my favorite television performances of all time), the sweetest shady casino owners ever, now all this was incredibly compelling and quite often absolutely hilarious as well. As usual though somehow it was heartbreaking in Cooper's heartfelt goodbye to his new family, and Laura Dern's incredible performance as she reveals just what was going on with her character in such chilling detail. Then to top it all off we had the amazing return of the Audrey dance, leading up to quite the rug pull by Lynch. One of the best hours of television I've ever seen, and I can't wait for that two part finale.

Tahmeed:

4
3
1
2
6
7
5

Calvin Law said...

I was trying to veer you towards the inevitable masterpiece of a Tommy Wiseau vehicle where he and indeed, Mads Mikkelsen face off. But your actually legitimate good cast is pretty outstanding.

Giuseppe Fadda said...

I'm surprised Harington is not in your top 10 Louis. I thought he was really good this season.

Anonymous said...

Luke

Louis: I'm glad we agree on Coster-Waldau.

I have Kit Harington in 2nd, mainly due to my personal investment in his character.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

My top 10-
1. Coster-Waldau
2. Headey
3. Harington
4. Rigg
5. McCann
6. Dormer
7. Dinklage
8. Cunningham
9. Flynn
10.Turner

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: When you finally break the 2012 tie between Mikkelsen and Phoenix, could you let us know.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Since Coster-Waldau is now the only cast member to be twice season MVP, is he in your top ten overall. If so where would you rank him.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I didn't really see the big deal with Coster-Waldau this season, but then again I haven't found Jaime interesting in a while.

Louis Morgan said...

Giuseppe:

Though I am usually a strong proponent of his work on the show, he didn't stand out for me this season, above those ranked above him anyways. I should say though the ranking is less meaningful this season as I found most of the cast on a fairly even keel of being very good, and no one quite stood out the same way as certain performances from previous seasons.

Luke:

#10.

Giuseppe Fadda said...

@Robert: Coster-Waldau is in my opinion one of the best actors in the show. He's always been consistently good for me even when the material wasn't on par with his work (like in Season 5). This season I thought he was terrific at portraying his character's struggle as he's torn between his love/loyalty towards Cersei and his gradual realization of her dishonesty and cruelty. His final scene this season was brilliant for me.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Yeah, I just find Jaime's arc to have gotten increasingly redundant as the show went along. Truth be told my opinion of the character never recovered after the rape scene in season 4.

Anonymous said...

Louis: your top 20 joaquin phoenix, uma thurman and christopher lloyd acting moments

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your top twenty Game Of Thrones scenes.

Charles H said...

Coster-Waldau consistently outdid himself throughout this season and through the whole show. No doubt my MVP for this season.

Luke Higham said...

Thinking about it more, I'll put Harington down to 9th.

Charles: The rest of your top 10 this season.

Luke Higham said...

Charles: With Season 5, I think Coster-Waldau was as good he possibly could be with the god-awful material he was given. The only time he was really allowed to go a bit further was his scene with Myrcella.

Anonymous said...

Louis or anyone: What are your thoughts on the It Trailer and do you reckon the film and Bill SkarsgƄrd will be good?

Robert MacFarlane said...

I think It looks great, but I'm not totally feeling SkarsgƤrd yet.

Charles H said...

Luke:

1. Coster-Waldau
2. Headey
3. Rigg
4. McCann
5. Dinklage
6. Harington
7. Cunningham
8. Dormer
9. Flynn
10. Kaye

Robert MacFarlane said...

Ranking the performances this season is hard. No one really stood out for me one way or the other. I would have Rigg for #1 just for her big scene, I guess.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Louis tries to avoid them after the teaser and first trailer. I think it'll be good though It's probably gonna prove divisive.

RatedRStar said...

I do like voice that Skarsgard used..."take ittahh" but I dont know, I reckon the film will do well, funnily enough the vibe I got from the trailer was similar to Super 8 in a way if it were more horror like, in that its like a group of intelligent kids trying to solve a mystery of some kind in a specific time.

Luke Higham said...

A film's being made about the Westboro Baptist Church.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Could you see Paul Dano as Phillip Krauss in a 2000s version of Detroit? I sometimes forget that he's still only in his early thirties lmao.
Oh and your Krauss for a 90s version?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Do you think Kit Harington would be a good fit for Will Turner and Balian of Ibelin.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Phoenix:

11. Helping Freddie - The Master
12. Double Speak - Inherent Vice
13. They leave - Her
14. Commended - We Own the Night
15. Going home - The Master
16. Bad Date - Her
17. Shootout - Inherent Vice
18. Surrogate - Her
19. Shasta "Returns" - Inherent Vice
20. Murder - To Die For

Thurman:

1. "I'm a bad person" - Kill Bill Vol. 2
2. Chapel meeting - Kill Bill Vol. 2
3. Meeting Pai Mei - Kill Bill Vol. 2
4. Truth Serum - Kill Bill Vol. 2
5. Bang Mommy - Kill Bill Vol. 2
6. Sword collection - Kill Bill Vol. 1
7. The Joke - Pulp Fiction
8. Seduction breakdown - Dangerous Liaisons
9. Words of advice - Kill Bill Vol. 1
10. Eye eye - Kill Bill Vol. 2
11. Meeting Hatori Hanzo - Kill Bill Vol. 1
12. Trix are for kids - Kill Bill Vol. 2
13. Don't be an l 7 - Pulp Fiction
14. Downfall - Les Miserables
15. Bill it's you're.. - Kill Bill Vol. 1
16. Awakening - Kill Bill Vol. 1
17. The pilot - Pulp Fiction
18. Story of Pai Mei - Kill Bill Vol. 2
19. Losing to Budd - Kill Bill Vol. 2
20. Just one left - Kill Bill Vol. 2

Lloyd:

1. I thought what the hell - Back to the Future
2. Success - Back to the Future
3. No One should Know their Future - Back to the Future
4. The Escape - One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
5. "What do you care" - Twenty Bucks
6. "Ronald Reagan" - Back to The Future
7. Freeway - Who Framed Roger Rabbit
8. Church Meeting - I am Not A Serial Killer
9. "Some serious Shit" - Back to the Future
10. They Found me - Back to the Future
11. Not to Scale - Back to the Future
12. "You're Out" - Twenty Bucks
13. Shave and a hair cut - Who Framed Roger Rabbit
14. Goodbye - Back to the Future Part III
15. A better Crime - Twenty Bucks
16. Titular Line - Back to the Future
17. Freakout - One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
18. "I know nothing of that" - To Be Or Not To Be
19. "Who'd I kill?" - Clue
20. Witness stand - Eight Men Out

94dk1:

Certainly. Joaquin Phoenix.

Luke:


1. The Hound's trial
2. The Mountain vs. The Viper
3. Hardhome
4. Jaime's Confession
5. Tyrion's Second Trial
6. Baelor's Ending
7. The Hound's "final" Scene
8. The Battle For Castle Black
9. The Red Wedding
10. Killed by a Pig
11. Sept Explosion
12. Fire and Blood
13. Battle of Blackwater
14. Hold the Door
15. Betrayal of Ned
16. Battle of the Bastards
17. Chaos is a ladder
18. Joffrey's Demise
19. I will be your Champion
20. Tywin's Demise

Yes to both.

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