Monday, 20 March 2017

Alternate Best Actor 1973

And the Nominees Were Not:

Donald Sutherland in Don't Look Now

Robert Shaw in The Hireling

Robert Mitchum in The Friends of Eddie Coyle

Elliott Gould in The Long Goodbye

Edward Woodward in The Wicker Man

74 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Woodward
2. Sutherland
3. Mitchum
4. Shaw
5. Gould

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Walter Slezak in Born To Kill.

Luke Higham said...

This is one of the hardest prediction contests in quite awhile.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Mitchum
2. Woodward
3. Gould
4. Sutherland
5. Shaw

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Nevermind Slezak, I saw your thoughts on the previous post.

Calvin Law said...

1. Shaw
2. Woodward
3. Sutherland
4. Mitcham
5. Gould

Mitchum is excellent, Sutherland, Shaw and Woodward are brilliant. Haven't seen Gould.

Calvin Law said...

Also, GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar :D

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: Nice throwback, yet it's a shame he hasn't won one, even an honorary award at that.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin & RatedRStar: Do you think Lemmon could potentially lose the overall.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: Nah, I think Lemmon takes this. I do think we could have a pretty 5-heavy year though (I think Shaw and Woodward are guaranteed 5's)

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I hope Woodward makes the top 5.

omar said...

1. Woodward
2. Sutherland
3. Mitchum
4. Shaw
5. Gould

RatedRStar said...

Look before I wasnt criticising Eliott Goulds work in The Long Goodbye, I was just saying that Louis needs to be careful when picking performances that could b a let down.

Luke: I am about 50/50 on that, I reckon from a gut feeling, he will keep the win.

1. Woodward
2. Sutherland
3. Mitchum
4. Shaw
5. Gould

Louis Morgan said...

RatedRStar:

I've actually already watched the Long Goodbye some time ago.

Calvin Law said...

I'll be kinda sad if Anderson moves out of the top 10.

Charles Heiston said...

I'm hoping one of these guys take the overall. Fantastic performances. But i got no opinion on Woodward.

1. Mitchum
2. Woodward
3. Sutherland
4. Shaw
5. Gould

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I'm glad you didn't choose McDowell, because If.... is the best in the Mick Travis trilogy and his performance there was what got him to play Alex DeLarge.

Charles Heiston said...

Haven't seen Gould either in matter of fact. But Shaw, Sutherland, and Mitchum are 5 star performances.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Could either Newman or Pacino go up.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: You know what I mean though right?

Anonymous said...

1. Woodward
2. Sutherland
3. Mitchum
4. Shaw
5. Gould
Luke: I think Pacino has a better chance than Newman to get a 5.
Louis: Rating and thoughts on Lee J. Cobb in Johnny O'Clock.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

1. Woodward
2. Sutherland
3. Shaw
4. Mitchum
5. Gould

Really really hope Pacino goes up for Scarecrow.

Calvin Law said...

The more I think about Get Out, the more I love it. The writing behind the characters, the positive discrimination mentalities, and how they handled the comedic relief side character are all rather brilliant.

Deiner said...

My predictions:
1. Woodward
2. Mitchum
3. Sutherland
4. Shaw
5. Gould

Btw Louis, do you think you can check out "Scenes from a Marriage", "Paper Moon", "A Touch Of Class", "Day for Night", "A Brief Vacation" and "The Spirit of the Beehive"?

GM said...

1. Shaw
2. Mitchum
3. Sutherland
4. Woodward
5. Gould

Varun Neermul said...

1.Woodward
2.Shaw
3.Sutherland
4.Gould
5.Mitchum

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your top 15 voice acting performances in animated or live-action films.

Anonymous said...

Looks like there are quite a lot of films to see.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on:
Someday My Prince Will Come and Heigh-Ho
When You Wish Upon A Star
Once Upon A Dream
Friend Like Me and Prince Ali
God Help The Outcasts, A Guy Like You and The Court Of Miracles

and Falling Slowly from Once

Maciej said...

1. Shaw
2. Sutherland
3. Mitchum
4. Woodward
5. Gould

Charles Heiston said...

Louis: Your top 5 Alain Delon acting moments.

JackiBoyz said...

1. Woodward
2. Sutherland
3. Shaw
4. Mitchum
5. Gould

Anonymous said...

Louis: Which characterization of Batman do you prefer? His BTAS one or the TNBA one?

Nguyễn Ngọc Toàn said...

1. Woodward
2. Gould
3. Sutherland
4. Shaw
5. Mitchum

Hoping for a Dark horse :D

Varun Neermul said...

Louis, can you please watch scenes from a marriage? Would love to know your thoughts.

Anonymous said...

Louis must have seen half of these films mentioned I reckon, since he probably knew 1973 was a year that had so many performances to be seen in it.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: top 10 Trevor Howard acting moments?

Charles Heiston said...

Anonymous: Same with 1979, alot of films to be seen.

Luke Higham said...

Everyone: Who would you say was the greatest loss to film acting, whenever they were at their peak. My pick is Robert Shaw.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I'll go with Shaw as well.

Charles Heiston said...

Luke: My pick is John Cazale. He made an impact, but i imagine he could've reached more heights.

Anonymous said...

Louis: So, when is the first review coming? Tomorrow?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: It'll be tomorrow. I really want Woodward to come first, yet since he got the most 1st place predictions, he'll be reviewed 2nd from last. Gould will come first.

Anonymous said...

I think Louis is going to be more impressed with Hayden than Gould.

Louis Morgan said...

In regards to Scenes From A Marriage, I would be interested to know whether the television or theatrical cut is considered to be better.

Luke:

It is possible given that I do like both of their performances quite a bit.

1. Elizabeth Hartman - The Secret of NIMH
2. Tony Jay - The Hunchback of Notre Dame
3. Robby Benson - Beauty and the Beast
4. Mercedes McCambridge - The Exorcist
5. Betty Lou Gerson - 101 Dalmatians
6. Tom Hulce - The Hunchback of Notre Dame
7. Jeremy Irons - The Lion King
8. Vincent Price - The Great Mouse Detective
9. Robin Williams - Aladdin
10. Luis van Rooten - Cinderella
11. Jerry Orbach - Beauty and the Beast
12. Eleanor Audley - Cinderella
13. Tom Noonan - Anomalisa
14. Kathryn Beaumont - Alice in Wonderland
15. Douglas Rain - 2001: A Space Odyssey

Someday My Prince Will Come - (These songs can often be far more simple than their successors and that is the case here. Just really simple melody, the intro being just spoken, with a rather simple delivery. That is more than enough as the melody has become forever iconic for a reason.)

Heigh Ho - (Technically slightly more complex as the Snow White songs go, but still very simple. I'd say purely within the film it is the best song. Again incredibly simply lyrics and melody with it's more flamboyant moment being the building of the heigh hos. Enjoyable though in its simplicity particularly when it reaches its marching heigh-hos.)

When You Wish upon A Star - (Also still not overly complex, though more so than Snowwhite's songs, yet that kind uses that to the perfection as a crafted lullaby. It's straight forward yet to beautifully so. It so course sentimental in style and in delivery by Cliff Edward just as it should be given the thematic point of the song. So wonderfully elegant in the warmth even with in its strings and choir, to be a musical embodiment of something truly pleasant)

Once Upon a Dream - (Has a very healthy foundation to begin with through Tchaikovsky's work, though it is abridge effectively. The addition are the lyrics which manage to feel like a perfect fit, although through the use of a few la's I suppose. The lyrics though are so fitting that you kind of hear them even when just listening to the ballet. They don't feel thrown on as they feel like what was already felt through the instrumental.)

Friend Like Me - (Basically done as a 1920's big band number. Nothing wrong with the style but I will say the verses aren't all that memorable. In fact Robin Williams in a way seems constricted by the song given his inability to adlib during it though he delivers the song well. What does work though is the chorus which, despite being repetitive, works through the sheer infectious energy of it.)

Louis Morgan said...

Prince Ali - (I love the intro and the outro. The former having terrific build up with the percussion and the announcing chorus. The body of the song is fine but not particularly inspired. It is somewhat made for by that outro which is lead through its accelerando as it builds the voices and instrumentation to lead to a rather remarkable conclusion.)

God Help the Outcasts - (The greatness of "Bells" and "Hellfire" do overshadow all other songs a bit. I assume Disney wrongly backed this song as "the" song from the film given the cover in the credits which may explain Hunchback being completely snubbed in Best Song. Anyway again the song is elevated by the grandeur in the orchestration which would be fitting to a powerful aria, and is particularly effective within its placement within the film. The song is good alone even if it is not especially memorable as Disney songs go.)

A Guy Like You - (Well as usual the Gargoyles denote a low point for the film. I don't hate the song because after all it still is a Disney song, it certainly won't haunt your nightmares like a "Marry the Mole". On its own it is a perfectly disposable cabaret number. It does nothing notable, and the verses get rather uninspired after awhile, and it's random switch to the random piano ballad section is a little unpleasant. It's far worse in context,but out of context it's just not particularly good.)

The Court of Miracles - (An excellent particularly underrated song. This one does no emphasize the grand, but it doesn't need to. It's a short but incredibly sweet dance of death. Paul Kandel's voice work again does so much to infuse the song with the right darkly comedic tone. I love all of its minute and half which has such an nicely swift tempo, and very enjoyable lyrics.)

Falling Slowly - (Only this masterpiece could best "Beautiful Ride" for me. I mean what isn't there to love about the song really. This is one of the songs where everything just seems to fit together in such perfection. The duet couldn't be more elegant, the lyrics more poignant, the introduction couldn't more wonderful in its simplicity. In that it builds so effectively yet effortlessly towards this dramatic grandeur as the underscore support the guitar and keyboard. It's haunting yet joyous all the same, and every time I listen to it is guaranteed to grant that certain feeling only the greatest piece of music illicit.)

RatedRStar:

I understand the concern.

Deiner:

I will.

Charles:

1. The ending - Le Samourai
2. Treating his wound - Le Samourai
3. First Kill - Le Samourai
4. Interrogation - Le Samourai
5. Evading the police - Le Samourai

Anonymous:

The original series. The sometimes lighthearted elements in his "real" Bruce Wayne felt off. Also, though it was slightly touched upon, Bruce Timm's obsession with a Batman/Batgirl relationship was bizarre.

Calvin Law said...

Is Benson a 4.5 now?

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: As far as I'm concerned, McCambridge is the only one of those performances that got a 4.5 from Louis. So I'll be really happy if Jay went up, as well as Benson.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I think Louis' list is off the top of his head though, because Lucille La Verne (Snow White), Eleanor Audley (Sleeping Beauty), Jennifer Jason Leigh (Anomalisa), Dwayne Johnson (Moana) and a few others aren't on the list.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: Peter O'Toole in Ratatouille is another one.

Luke Higham said...

Richard Kind and Phyllis Smith in Inside Out.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: It's difficult to say which version's better but I'd rather if you watched the theatrical version first, then watch the mini-series sometime down the line.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Benson, Jay, and Hartman are all 4.5's, since for me they hold just as much of an impact as any other 4.5, even watching their films without even the animation. Plus the live action Beauty and the Beast only made me appreciate Benson all the more.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Where would you rank Jay in the supporting '96 ranking then.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Do you have Hartman above Streep in Sophie's Choice.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Who's your choice to play Frollo, if a live action adaptation of the animated version does come to fruition.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

I really should.

In regards to Frollo, Roger Allam, or if more of a "name" is required, I think Hugo Weaving may have it in him.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Do you think Jay could've potentially get a 5 for Hunchback, if the film's tone was consistent and was a PG-13.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Well with animation one still must consider the animation addition to the character, and for Hunchback I actually think the tonal problems never got in the way of Frollo all that much. He's the best Disney villain even if his film isn't the best Disney movie. Now on side note I dearly hope they'll do the live action remake, first Ewan McGregor just has to be Quasimodo, but also the flaws can be fixed so easily with a somewhat darker tone.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I hope Disney will have some balls and give it a very strong PG-13, bordering on the R, because if they don't, that'll be a very worrying sign.

Calvin Law said...

Janelle Monae as Esmeralda

Aaron Tveit as Phoebus

Jason Segel as Clopin

Paul Dano as Gringoire (in place of the gargoyles)

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

I can't help but feel Lin-Manuel Miranda will be Clopin, as long as they do the film.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis, what's your thoughts on "The Weary Kind" from Crazy Heart?

Calvin Law said...

Louis: that's a perfect choice.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I would give my left nut for Lin-Manuel as Clopin. Also, for Frollo I'm currently google searching "can Jason isaacs sing".

Robert MacFarlane said...

Also, very glad to see you upgraded Benson and Jay. They're my wins for their years.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Okay, saw some b-roll footage of Stevens, as it turns out his voice isn't quite as digitally deepened as I thought. In fact the deepening of his voice in post production is made weirder that the voice he chose works fine.

Luke Higham said...

I don't know why, but Dan Stevens actually reminds me somewhat of Ralph Fiennes.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Given what I've seen of him so far, I can totally see him reaching Fiennes soon enough.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Wait, that gives me an idea: Ralph Fiennes as Frollo. He sang pretty well with Prince of Egypt.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Your thoughts on The Prince Of Egypt and the soundtrack.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Great movie, hit-and-miss soundtrack.

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Fiennes as Frollo? I want to see that.

Matt:

I'll answer that next post.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Your thoughts on Deliver Us, The Plagues and Through Heaven's Eyes.

BRAZINTERMA Prêmio Fictício said...

5 - Gould
4 - Shaw
3 - Sutherland
2 - Woodward
1 - Mitchum


Overrall Rank:
1. Jack Lemmon
2. Gene Hackman
3. Martin Scheen
4. Robert Mitchum
5. Edward Woodward
6. Jason Miller
7. Donald Sutherland
8. Steve Mcqueen
9. Robert Shaw
10. Edward Fox