Monday, 27 February 2017

Alternate Best Actor 1937

And the Nominees Were Not:

Ronald Colman in The Prisoner of Zenda

Robert Donat in Knight Without Armour

Jean Gabin in Pepe Le Moko

Henry Fonda in You Only Live Once

Edward G. Robinson in Kid Galahad

90 comments:

Robert MacFarlane said...

Well, that was something.

Louis Morgan said...

Also you have to give credit to the La La Land producers for handling it as well as they did.

Calvin Law said...

Interesting lineup, I'll sleep on it. And this whole night in general.

What a weird evening. At least it was a happy one.

Maciej said...

That's true, they acted really classy. Shame 'cause that must have been very humiliating for them.

1.Gabin
2.Fonda
3.Robinson
4.Donat
5.Colman

Anonymous said...

Damn, this is a tough one. I'd have preferred 1936, but whatever.
1. Gabin
2. Colman
3. Donat
4. Robinson
5. Fonda
Louis: Apparently, Hackman was supposed to play Hirsch's role in Ordinary People. Would you have chosen him over Hirsch?

Charles Heiston said...

1. Gabin
2. Colman
3. Robinson
4. Donat
5. Fonda
I was laughing when Warren Beatty was on screen. But when they said Moonlight won, i was like.....I was cussing at my TV the whole time Moonlight's producers were giving their speech.

Charles Heiston said...

Robert: If you need help to stop laughing, just think of Hacksaw's editing win. :)

Alex Marqués said...

Wow, what a shock! It was not Beatty's fault though, they gave them the wrong envelope (that's why he was hesitating to read it). The La La Land's producers took it so well.

Matt Mustin said...

I loved the guy who just went "We lost, by the way. But uh, you know." As opposed to "Aw, FUCK! Are you *kidding* me?"

Anonymous said...

Denzel Washington looked pretty angry that he lost to Casey.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I was in school and looked at the results, and aside from the Suicide Squad win, I'd say a brilliant bunch of winners.
Picture: La La Land was my 4th favorite film of the year, and Moonlight was my 6th. I can't complain at all about the latter winning, it's extremely deserved.
Actor: Affleck deserved this, and I'm glad those unproven allegations didn't hurt him. The only stupid thing is that on every Youtube video I see about his win, I see a bunch of trolls making this a racial thing.
Actress: My win for the year winning, couldn't be happier :)
Supporting Actor and Actress: Both so damn deserved.

As for the BP fiasco, it isn't either presenter's fault.

Anonymous said...

The reaction to Casey Affleck winning is pretty bad on twitter, also some of the reactions to Affleck winning like Denzel, Brie Larson and Alicia Vikander are very poor indeed.

Denzel Washingtons reaction was pretty bad when Casey thanked him.

Alex Marqués said...

Well, considering his allegations it's pretty understandable.

Varun Neermul said...

1.Fonda
2.Gabin
3.Robinson
4.Donat
5.Colman

Robert MacFarlane said...

Considering Affleck more than likely did it (I read those reports, and they are DETAILED), I don't blame the icy reception to it, no matter how well-deserved his win was.

Luke Higham said...

1. Gabin
2. Colman
3. Donat
4. Robinson
5. Fonda

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Gabin
2. Donat
3. Colman
4. Robinson
5. Fonda

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: The top ten film and TV show scenes (two separate lists) that made you come close to crying or made you emotional.
Also:
1. Gabin
2. Colman
3. Donat
4. Robinson
5. Fonda

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Yes since I'm sure Hackman would have been great, and has never had a problem taking or shining in smaller roles. Hirsch was fine though so that wasn't a terrible switch.

Tahmeed:

1. "Not Both of Us Not All Of US" - Gettysburg
2. "They'll Vote with Potter Otherwise" - It's a Wonderful Life
3. The Assassination - The Assassination of Jesse James
4. The Vote - The Ox-Bow Incident
5. "I Like Me" - Plane Trains and Automobiles
6. "a boy who couldn't run as fast as I could" - Angels with Dirty Faces
7. "Gondola No Uta" - Ikiru
8. Three Bullets - The Deer Hunter
9. "A Contender" - On the Waterfront
10. Ending - High and Low

TV:

1. "You're the Smartest Guy I have ever met" - Breaking Bad
2. "Someplace where a Warm Hand waits For Mine" - Batman TAS
3. Ned's Execution - Game of Thrones
4. Graveyard - Show Me a Hero
5. "You're not the man you're pretending to be" - Game of Thrones
6. Jane's Father arrives after the overdose - Breaking Bad
7. King killed by a pig - Game of Thrones
8. Summation - The Night of
9. "in the end the world didn't need a Superman just a brave one" - Superman TAS
10. Before Homer's Triple Bypass - The Simpsons

Calvin Law said...

Interesting, I've always found the ending of High and Low strangely satisfying. I love the film (more than you, fight me Louis ;)) but for some reason I just find it so cathartic that Gondo has done the right thing and achieved something despite the setbacks. Of course it's also underlined with a certain tragedy. Man, I'm gonna watch it sometime soon again.

Calvin Law said...

Also,

1. Gabin
2. Donat
3. Colman
4. Robinson
5. Fonda

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Oh yeah!!! I love it more. Seriously though it's one of those perfect endings for me because it is satisfying from Gondo's side. Then there is the villain who we have hated the whole film, yet it is still heartbreaking to see him breakdown knowing he's about to be executed as he struggles to explain his motivation. It is major reason I love Yamazaki's performance so much

Calvin Law said...

You've essentially explained why I've bumped Yamazaki into my top 20 of all-time. He's an entirely despicable villain yet somewhat emphatic still.

Calvin Law said...

Also, did anyone else feel a bit bad for Denzel last night? I felt like he was trying his best to be a good sport, but you can tell Fences meant so much to him.

Charles Heiston said...

Calvin: Yeah, he was pretty beaten up by it.

Anonymous said...

Denzel was really polite to the fans that came, I also think if anybody saw in the background, Viggo Mortensen giving a hug to one of the fans was pretty endearing as well.

Calvin Law said...

Viggo and Henry (his son) were goals.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your top 10 Clark Gable, Eli Wallach and Robert Ryan acting moments.

Alex Marqués said...

Louis: Which are your favourite It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia episodes?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Was the La La Land/Moonlight mix-up the biggest blunder you've seen in an award show.

Anonymous said...

Damn, I wanted La La Land to win. It's one of the only few musicals that I liked.

Charles Heiston said...

I'm just glad that it got 6 deserved awards. (Although Audition was better than City of Stars)

Varun Neermul said...

Louis, how would you rank the acting performances in Breaking bad?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Gable:

1. Parting of ways - Gone with the Wind
2. Gangster speak - It Happened One Night
3. "Frankly My Dead" - Gone with the Wind
4. Proper thumb waving - It Happened One Night
5. The Parlor - Gone With the Wind
6. The Wall of Jericho - It Happened One Night
7. Jail cell - Gone Wit the Wind
8. After the Earthquake - San Francisco
9. Recapturing the Horses - The Misfits
10. The Club - Teacher's Pet

Wallach:

1. Tuco Meets his Brother - TGTBU
2. Graveyard - TGTBU
3. "Those who come through the window" - TGTBU
4. "If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk" - TGTBU
5. Gunshop - TGTBU
6. Story of a Soldier - TGTBU
7. Final Duel - TGTBU
8. Blondie takes Tuco in - TGTBU
9. "Why?" - The Magnificent Seven
10. Adios - The Magnificent Seven

Ryan:

1. Larry's Final Speech - The Iceman Cometh
2. Trying to Comfort Claggart - Billy Budd
3. Larry's First Speech - The Iceman Cometh
4. Turning them against each other - The Naked Spur
5. Claggart accuses Billy - Billy Budd
6. Confrontation with Don - The Iceman Cometh
7. Ben makes his move - The Naked Spur
8. Finale - The Wild Bunch
9. Flogging - Billy Budd
10. Argument with Hickey - The Iceman Cometh

Alex:

The D.E.N.N.I.S system
The Nightman Cometh
The Gang Solves the Gas Crisis
The Gang Tries Desperately to Win An Award
Gun Fever
Charlie Work
The Gan Reignites the rivalry
Who Got Dee Pregnant?
Gun Fever Still Too Hot
Mac & Dennis move to the suburbs

Luke:

It has to be, certainly far bigger than the first Oscars I watched when Frank Capra ran up stage thinking he had won for Lady For a Day, when in fact Frank Lloyd had won instead, since Will Rogers presenting only said "Come up and get it, Frank".

Louis Morgan said...

Varun:

1. Bryan Cranston
2. Aaron Paul
3. Giancarlo Esposito
4. Jonathan Banks
5. Bob Odenkirk
6. Dean Norris
7. Anna Gunn
8. Mark Margolis
9. Jesse Plemons
10. John de Lancie
11. Matt L. Jones
12. Charles Baker
13. David Costabile
14. Raymond Cruz
15. Betsy Brandt
16. Steven Michael Quezada
17. Lavell Crawford
18. Bill Burr
19. Jim Beaver
20. Robert Forster
21. Michael Bowen
22. RJ Mitte
23. Christopher Cousins
24. Steven Bauer
25. Krysten Ritter
26. Laura Fraser
27. Jeremiah Bitsui
28. Emily Rios

JackiBoyz said...

I really liked the ceremony this year, look forward to the next.

1. Gabin
2. Donat
3. Colman
4. Robinson
5. Fonda

Varun Neermul said...

Louis, top 10 aaron paul acting moments and top 10 Bryan cranston acting moments.

Charles Heiston said...

Louis: And also, your updated top 10 Ryan Gosling acting moments.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the art direction of Blade Runner and To Kill A Mockingbird.

Anonymous said...

Louis can get one more 2016 top five, best villains?

Louis Morgan said...

Varun:

From Breaking bad unless otherwise noted.

Cranston:

1. Crawl Space Laugh
2. "His Name is Hank"
3. "I did it for me"
4. Watching Jane die
5. Ending of Granite State
6. "Say My Name"
7. "Run"
8. After the fight with Jesse
9. Robot Gun
10. Sadist with newer magazines - Seinfeld

Paul:

1. Problem Dog
2. Killing Gale
3. "What now?"
4. Confronting Saul
5. Finding Jane
6. Peekaboo
7. "Wire"
8. After the shootout
9. Drug Bust gone right
10. Asking for a recheck - Eye in the Sky

Charles:

1. The Elevator - Drive
2. Taking the Bullet - Drive
3. Real Human Being - Drive
4. Showdown with Bernie - Drive
5. Dinner - La La Land
6. Hotel Room - Drive
7. Calling Nino - Drive
8. What a waste of a Lovely Night - La La Land
9. Dean leaves - Blue Valentine
10. 80's tribute Band - La La Land

Anonymous:

Blade Runner's art direction is one of the most influential in the last 40 years, and there is a reason for it. It is truly incredible and unique in its neon-noir (no typo there) style. As is usually important it is incredible lived in work, but there is a richness to this in establishing even a history in the world. It grants a certain urban rot, but also still has a definite urban beauty as well. It establishes a future world that is definitely new, yet grounded all the same. Furthermore I love the interior work in how varied it is. It shows functional areas like the freezer, building from past with Sebastian's workshop, but still grandeur where it fits such in the extravagant office of Tyrell.

To Kill a Mockingbird's art direction is effectively low key. In that much of it is realizing its period which it does well, but there's more. There's a possible nostalgia in so much of it, but with these touches of darkness such as Robinson's jail cell or Boo Radley's house. Has just the right small touches of style for the story, but it mostly very good in being a straight forward representation.

Anonymous:

1. Inoue and the Interpreter - Silence
2. Sarah, Ruby and Gigi - The Neon Demon
3. The Stranger - The Wailing
4. Marvin the Dog - Paterson
5. Darcy - Green Room

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cinematography and art direction of The Duellists.

Calvin Law said...

Marvin the Dog LOL

Charles Heiston said...

Marvin the Dog just might be the best villain in cinema history.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

The Duellists is an interesting example of a film that was in a way reactionary to, and obviously influenced by Barry Lyndon. In a rare case though this film is the stronger film, and thinking about it a bit more it actually contains my favorite single shot out of the two films after all, the shot of the defeated Feraud looking upon the horizon. The Duellists seeks to replicate a similair style as Lyndon in terms of cinematography and art direction.

It doesn't feel like a ripoff though as it goes in its own direction by offering frankly more humanity to the visuals. After all The Duellists care more about the titular pair than Lyndon seems to care about its central character, and with that there is far more emotion even in the camerawork and art direction. There is much more of a kinetic energy in the movement representing the passion of the duels. Still there's more though as we get grandeur, but also intimacy of the period. We are granted the grit in their surroundings during their most painful duel early on, we are granted the bitterness of the cold in their strange truce caused by war. It's amazing work.

By the way The Duellists is great, I don't think I say that enough.

Calvin:

After re-watching the film I have to say it has to have one of the best uses of a dog in any film. I especially love the scene where Marvin evilly watches Paterson from the distance as Paterson resets the Mail Box that Marvin purposefully bent.

Calvin Law said...

Oh I certainly agree, about both Marvin and The Duellists.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If you do upgrade the leading men from The Duellists, are you more likely to do that when you cover 1977 again.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I love how Napoleonesque that final shot was.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

That would be the most probable time.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I wouldn't mind a remake of The Duellists with Hardy and Schoenaerts and my choices to direct are Weir or Nolan.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Lastly, what were your 5 favourite moment of the Oscars last night. My favourite was Kevin O'Connell finally winning.

Luke Higham said...

*moments

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Hey I'd be all in for Weir doing anything these days.

O'Connell
The Salesman Winning
Musical Numbers(I must give respect for not being terribly done for once)
Playing off Damon
The Paxton mention before In Memoriam

Anonymous said...

Louis: What's your favorite type of animation? Traditional, stop-motion or CGI?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Can't wait for the Crowe-M&C:TFSOTW review. I hope we'll get it sometime this year.

I'm also curious as to how you'll respond to The Way Back. I liked it more than I thought I would and Farrell's rather great I think.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Traditional.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: It's definitely traditional, he hasn't seen that many stop-motion animation films, apart from Selick, Wallace & Gromit, Anomalisa and Kubo.

Michael Patison said...

1. Jean Gabin
2. Robert Donat
3. Ronald Colman
4. Edward G. Robinson
5. Henry Fonda

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: See any 2017 movies yet?

Louis Morgan said...

Besides Wick 2, no. I'll be watching Logan this weekend though.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I highly recommend Get Out. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

moviefilm said...

1) Gabin
2) Fonda
3) Colman
4) Robinson
5) Donat

Varun Neermul said...

Louis, your top 10 Giancarlo Esposito acting moments from breaking bad

Robert MacFarlane said...

I seem to be in a minority in thinking Cranston is only fourth Best on Breaking Bad.

Alex Marqués said...

Robert: If by minority you mean only one person, probably.

Robert MacFarlane said...

What can I say? I though Banks, Paul, and Norris were all better.

Charles Heiston said...

Robert: I thought the whole main cast was fantastic. But my favorite goes to Paul.

Calvin Law said...

http://actorvsactor.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/year-of-garfield.html?m=1

My Andrew Garfield 2016 tribute.

Louis Morgan said...

Varun:

1. Blood in the pool
2. Salud
3. "I don't think we're alike"
4. Hectoring Hector
5. Threatening Walter
6. Look in the eye
7. Clearing the air
8. Seeing Gale
9. Broken phone call
10. "Do it"

RatedRStar said...

1. Jean Gabin
2. Robert Donat
3. Ronald Colman
4. Edward G. Robinson
5. Henry Fonda

I really liked the Oscars this year, I am already excited for the 2017 calendar.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

RatedRStar: Me too, I streamed the show later.
The Academy better get Jimmy Kimmel to sign a contract to do the show every year, he was the best host I've seen in years. Any guy who could have handled that fiasco at the end with a straight face and with a bit of comedy as well is a keeper.

omar said...

1. Jean Gabin
2. Robert Donat
3. Edward G. Robinson
4. Henry Fonda
5. Ronald Colman

RatedRStar said...

I would have joined in on the running commentary you had on the blog but I had work the next day so I cleverly went to bed at 8pm and woke up at 4am to watch them, fortunately I didnt hear about the controversy because the moment I woke up I went downstairs and got my breakfast, then sat down and watched the Oscars from the beginning without looking at social media at all.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Your five favourite moments from the broadcast. I hope O'Connell winning was one of them.

Lastly, could you add the leads from Andrei Rublev, Solaris (1972) and Stalker (1979) to your lists

RatedRStar said...

Luke:

1) The ending, haha that was great.
2) fan interaction
3) That opening from Justin Timberlake was great, loved that the crowd were into it, unlike when Kasabian performed at the Baftas and no one cared lol.
4) I do really like the UK segments with Alex Zane and Sanjeev Baskhar I think they have good chemistry
5) I laughed numerous times which is a good sign indeed.

I had the Stalker lead in already, Solaris there is a chance although I wonder who I would take out, I am not sure about Andrei Rublev simply because of how stacked 1966 is, what with Per Oscarsson and Eddie Axberg being locks, its like who do I take out from David Warner, Donald Pleasance and Max Von Sydow, Rock Hudson might sneak in as well.

Charles Heiston said...

Luke: Mine are.

1. The ending (It's grown on me a lot)
2. Affleck for best actor
3. Fan interaction
4. Paxton mention/tribute
5. Music/live performances

RatedRStar said...

Then again I do have Hackman for 1966 for supporting in Hawaii so I guess I could take Von Sydow out maybe.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: I think out of sheer interest, Louis will review the lead from Andrei Rublev and I plan on requesting him next, just to make sure.

RatedRStar said...

Yes Anistons tribute to Paxton was great =D.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Good idea =D

I always would say to something request someone that might not get in =D.

Luke Higham said...

1. Kevin O'Connell winning at last
2. La La Land Wins/Nope, It's Moonlight
3. Damon/Kimmel
4. In Memoriam
5. Kimmel as Host

I skipped the musical performances, I'm afraid.

I must admit, I don't think I've truly loved an In Memoriam segment from the Oscars since Yo Yo Ma in 2005. The BAFTAs tend to get it right every year.

Luke Higham said...

Mean tweets: Oscars edition was great too.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. The twist ending to the night
2. Kimmel's bit about We Bought a Zoo
3. Farhadi's letter
4. Ali winning
5. "How Far I'll Go" performance

Charles Heiston said...

Louis: Did you give Carl Weathers a 4.5 or 5 for Rocky? On his review it says 4.5 but on the overall it says 5.

Calvin Law said...

Charles: he's definitely a 5 for Louis.

Luke Higham said...

Charles: He's a 5. Louis just didn't change it on the review.

Charles Heiston said...

Ahh, okay.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Would you consider Bondarchuk's War And Peace to be 1966 or 1967, because it says on wikipedia, that it was released in four separate parts between 66-67 yet it's seen as one sole film.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

That's a tricky one but I feel I really should separate all the sections given the time between them. Something like Little Dorrit for example was just shown over consecutive days, this was several months for each. After all I separate The Human Condition which is viewed as singular film by some.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thanks for Clarifying.