Monday, 20 July 2015

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1989: Results

5. Burt Lancaster in Field of Dreams  - Lancaster gives a moving and memorable performance that was a worthy one to be his last.

Best Scene: Moonlight's introduction.
4. Fred Gwynne in Pet Sematary - Gwynne rises above his film to give an entertaining, but also very affecting performance that finds the right tone for the material.

Best Scene: Jud apologizes for what he has done.
3. Ray McAnally in My Left Foot - McAnally is a great performance by realizing his character as complex father who's capable of cruelty but love as well.

Best Scene: "Mother"
2. Bruce Dern in The 'burbs - Bruce Dern gives a consistently hilarious performance that brings some laughs to every scene he is in.

Best Scene: The Klopeks come back.
1. Sean Connery in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - Good Predictions Luke, Jackiboyz, Michael McCarthy, GM, and Anonymous. Connery succeeds completely in playing a part against his usual time giving an extremely enjoyable humorous turn, but at the same time effortlessly turns Henry Jones Sr into the beating heart of the film.

Best Scene: End of the tank chase.
Overall Rank:
  1. Sean Connery in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
  2. Bruce Dern in The 'burbs
  3. Ray McAnally in My Left Foot
  4. Hugh O'Conor in My Left Foot
  5. Danny Aiello in Do The Right Thing
  6. Fred Gwynne in Pet Sematary
  7. Ray Liotta in Field of Dreams
  8. Derek Jacobi in Henry V
  9. Ossie Davis in Do The Right Thing
  10. Burt Lancaster in Field of Dreams
  11. Andre Braugher in Glory 
  12. Beau Bridges in The Fabulous Baker Boys
  13. Morgan Freeman in Glory
  14. Joe Pesci in Lethal Weapon 2 
  15. Peter MacNicol in Ghostbusters II
  16. Rick Ducommun in The 'burbs
  17. James Earl Jones in Field of Dreams
  18. Jerry Orbach in Crimes and Misdemeanors
  19. Christopher Lloyd in Back to the Future Part II
  20. Robert Eddison in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
  21. John Turturro in Do the Right Thing
  22. Denzel Washington in Glory
  23. Ethan Hawke in Dead Poets Society
  24. Harold Ramis in Ghostbusters II
  25. Danny DeVito in The War of the Roses
  26. Willem Dafoe in Born on the Fourth of July
  27. Jason Robards in Parenthood
  28. John Leguizamo in Casualties of War 
  29. Denholm Elliot in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 
  30. Michael Biehn in The Abyss
  31. Robert Downey Jr. in True Believer
  32. Richard Jordan in Romero
  33. River Phoenix in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
  34. Henry Gibson in The 'burbs 
  35. John Mahoney in Say Anything 
  36. Dan Aykroyd in Ghostbusters II
  37. Paul Scofield in Henry V
  38. John Rhys-Davies in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
  39. Corey Feldman in The 'burbs
  40. Julian Glover in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
  41. Joss Ackland in Lethal Weapon 2
  42. Ernie Hudson in Ghostbusters II
  43. DeForest Kelley in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
  44. Kevork Malikyan in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
  45. Tom Hulce in Parenthood
  46. Gale Hansen in Dead Poets Society
  47. Rick Moranis in Ghostbusters II
  48. Bruno Kirby in When Harry Met Sally
  49. Randy Quaid in Christmas Vacation 
  50. Giancarlo Esposito in Do The Right Thing
  51. Charles Hallahan in True Believer
  52. Robert Sean Leonard in Dead Poets Society
  53. Brian Doyle-Murray in Christmas Vacation
  54. Raymond J. Barry in Born on the Fourth of July
  55. William Hickey in Christmas Vacation
  56. Alan Alda in Crimes and Misdemeanors
  57. John C. Reilly in Casualties of War
  58. Benecio Del Toro in License To Kill
  59. Miko Hughes in Pet Sematary 
  60. Joaquin Phoenix in Parenthood
  61. Zakes Mokae in A Dry White Season 
  62. Keanu Reeves in Parenthood 
  63. Sam Waterston in Crimes and Misdemeanors
  64. Marlon Brando in A Dry White Season
  65. Macauley Culkin in Uncle Buck
  66. Tom Bower in True Believer
  67. Don Patrick Harvey in Casualties of War
  68. Robert Davi in License to Kill
  69. Brother Theodore in The 'burbs
  70. Michael Byrne in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
  71. Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society
  72. Ian McKellen in Scandal
  73. Kurtwood Smith in True Believer
  74. George Carlin in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
  75. John Randolph in Christmas Vacation
  76. Pat Morita in The Karate Kid Part III
  77. Michael Gough in Batman
  78. Laurence Luckinbill in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
  79. Bill Nunn in Do the Right Thing 
  80. Rick Ducommun in Little Monsters
  81. Samuel L. Jackson in Do the Right Thing 
  82. Peter Gallagher in Sex, Lies, and Videotape
  83. Jackey Vinson in The Wizard
  84. Jurgen Prochnow in A Dry White Season 
  85. Robbie Coltrane in Henry V
  86. Dan Aykroyd in Driving Miss Daisy
  87. Frank Whaley in Field of Dreams
  88. E.G. Marshall in Christmas Vacation
  89. Rick Moranis in Parenthood
  90. Billy Dee Williams in Batman
  91. Alan King in Enemies, A Love Story
  92. Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier 
  93. Martin Kove in The Karate Kid III
  94. Thomas F. Wilson in Back to the Future Part II
  95. Johnny Galecki in Christmas Vacation
  96. Cary Elwes in Glory
  97. Abe Vigoda in Look Who's Talking
  98. Pat Hingle in Batman
  99. Robert Wuhl in Batman 
  100. Timothy Busfield in Field of Dreams
  101. George Segal in Look Who's Talking
  102. Reginald VelJohnson in Turner & Hooch
  103. Thomas Ian Griffith in The Karate Kid III
  104. Beau Bridges in The Wizard
  105. Daniel Stern in Little Monsters
  106. Glenn Shadix in Heathers 
  107. Frank Whaley in Little Monsters 
  108. Scott Paulin in Turner & Hooch 
  109. Mickey Rooney in Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland 
  110. Christian Slater in The Wizard
  111. Jay Underwood in Uncle Buck
  112. Ben Savage in Little Monsters
  113. Brad Greenquist in Pet Sematary
  114. Luke Edwards in The Wizard 
  115. Frank Whaley in Born on the Fourth of July
  116. Will Seltzer in The Wizard
  117. Sean Penn in Casualties of War
  118. Josh Evans in Born on the Fourth of July
Next Year: 1959 Lead

132 comments:

luke higham said...

1959 Lead
Cary Grant - North By Northwest
Jean-Pierre Leaud - The 400 Blows
Tony Curtis - Some Like It Hot
Alec Guinness - Our Man In Havana
Dean Stockwell - Compulsion

luke higham said...

My request is Jon Finch in Macbeth (1971)

Anonymous said...

What are your ratings/thoughts on Nicole Kidman in Far and Away? Anyway, I hope you'll rewatch The Nun's Story for 1959 (Audrey's my pick) and I hope you'll watch Imitation of Life (Moore and Kohner are amazing)

luke higham said...

Louis: Ratings & Thoughts on the rest of your top 30.

Anonymous said...

Anyway, I'm the Anonymous who won the predictions but I haven't quite understood yet how the Bonus round thing work. Can someone explain it to me briefly? I mean, can I request any male or female performance Louis hasn't seen yet?

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Only Male Performances as Louis started the blog as an alternative to other blogs that covered Female Performances Exclusively.

In regards to the bonus rounds, We'll find out whenever the alternates are finished.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Like everyone else on the blog, you can recommend Female performances for Louis to watch during the bonus rounds.

RatedRStar said...

Louis I will leave it up to you if you want to add Anthony Franciosa for Career as the 6th unofficial nominee in the list, I dont mind.

Cary Grant - North By Northwest
Jean-Pierre Leaud - The 400 Blows
Richard Burton - Look Back In Anger
Alec Guinness - Our Man In Havana
Dean Stockwell - Compulsion

RatedRStar said...

Actually it is exciting to think whether Anthony deserved that globe or not =D.

Robert MacFarlane said...

You forgot to rank Kurtwood Smith in Dead Poets Society. (I assume somewhere near the bottom)

GM said...

Soumitra Chaterjee - The World of Apu
Jean Pierre Leaud - The 400 Blows
Tatsuya Nakadai - The Human Condition I: No Greater Love
Alberto Sordi - The Great War
Rock Hudson - Pillow Talk
Dean Stockwell - Compulsion

Anonymous said...

I don't know if, as an anonymous, I can sugest something, but here I go, with some performances from 59 that, so far, were not talked about here:

Eiji Funakoshi - Fires On The Plain
Martin LaSalle - Pickpocket (I am really curious to see some Louis review of a performance directed by Robert Bresson)
Eiji Okada - Hiroshima Mon Amour
John Wayne - Rio Bravo

Tom said...

No rankings for
- Norman Lloyd in Dead Poets Society
- Buddy Hackett in The Little Mermaid
- Bruce Willis in In Country (Golden Globe nominee)
- Ed Harris in Jacknife (Golden Globe nominee)
- Jack Palance in Batman (he did more than Billy Dee Williams)
- Roger Guenveur Smith in Do the Right Thing
- Robin Harris in Do the Right Thing

I'm surprised that Tom Wilson is ranked so low for Back to the Future 2. He was really impressive playing several versions of the same character, and often side-by-side. He is even below characters that have little or nothing to do in other movies such as John Randolph in Christmas Vacation or Kevork Malikayn in Last Crusade. River Phoenix in Last Crusade is ranked way too high, I feel - all he does is jump around on a train for a few minutes in the beginning.

Ghostbusters 2 was one of the worst movies of that year, and Dan A's performance was the most embarrassing, yelling at slime and such; he was better in Miss Daisy.

Anonymous said...

Well, then I'd request for the bonus round Kirsten Dunst in Interview with a Vampire. It's a great performance (5 stars for me) and Tom Cruise is also excellent in it for me.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: You can't request female performances.

Anonymous said...

@GM: will you continue posting on your blog? Because I love it (and I'd appreciate very much if you'd allow Anonymous comments, of course if you don't mind)

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I meant Recommend/Suggest Female Performances, not to request them for a review. If you're gonna make a request, then choose Tom Cruise.

Anonymous said...

Ah all right I misunderstood you're comment. In this case, I'd request Tom Cruise in Interview with the Vampire :)

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Well, I'm glad that's sorted out.

JackiBoyz said...

I will let you know later who my winning request is.

Jean Pierre Leaud - The 400 Blows
Tatsuya Nakadai - The Human Condition I: No Greater Love
Richard Burton - Look Back in Anger
Peter Sellers - I'm All Right Jack
Dean Stockwell - Compulsion

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luke higham said...

Louis: I'll switch Tony Curtis in Some Like It Hot with Richard Burton in Look Back In Anger.

Anonymous said...

1959 Lead:
Cary Grant in North by Northwest
Alec Guinness in Our Man in Havana
Dean Stockwell in Compulsion
Richard Burton in Look Back in Anger
Jean Pierre-Leaud in The 400 Blows
By the way, Louis, your cast and director for a version of The Expendables made in the 1960/70's. And in what particular year would you release it?
Luke: What is your rating for Curtis?

luke higham said...

Anonymous: A 4, bordering on a 4.5.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and ratings and thoughts on Sean Penn in Casualties of War. This is gonna be fun.

luke higham said...

Anonymous:
Penn - 1.5(I could go lower as this is such a missed opportunity of a performance. I believe the film wanted us to see how in part the environment of the situation drove these men to be far worse than they would have been otherwise. Two of the performances convey this, one does not need to, and Penn unfortunately just plays his role as an over the top crazed villain. That accent and mannerisms just come off as obvious here as well. The worst is he could have created a certain respect for the character in the earlier scenes making the stripping away of it all the more disconcerting, but his caricature of a gungho soldier gets in the way. Then in the later scenes he plays it like a straight villain than a crazed soldier for the most part.)

Anonymous said...

I suppose that film critics would also find Louis' rating for Denzel in Malcolm X blasphemous as well, and a lot of people say that he should have won the award.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Most film critics are Hacks, Peter Travers and Richard Roeper especially.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: They toe the academy's line and don't have a mind of their own.

Anonymous said...

Luke: What do you think of Pete Hammond and Mick LaSalle? They're pretentious.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I used to Watch GoldDerby videos years ago and all I could remember about Hammond was a 2008 Oscars roundtable and he was fairly pretentious. I can't say anything about LaSalle though. Tom O'Neil (GoldDerby/LA Times) really got on my goat as well.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: At least Siskel and Ebert exuded a sense of dignity.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I find Hammond and LaSalle pretentious because they treat their opinion as if it was fact. When Peter O'Toole died, Hammond was acting as if someone was stupid for preferring O'Toole's performance over Peck's and treated as if Peck's performance was undeniably better than O'Toole's, when it's his own opinion and not a goddamn fact. To me, that's just pretentious and annoyingly stupid. LaSalle, on the other hand, preferred Clooney's performance in Michael Clayton and said he was factually better than Day-Lewis in TWBB. You're right, Siskel and Ebert, no matter what they thought of films, they were never pretentious. I really miss them. RIP to both.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Okay, I officially put Mick LaSalle on my most hated list.

RIP to both Gene and Roger as well.

Anonymous said...

I always respected Siskel and Ebert even if they disliked films like To Kill A Mockingbird, Blue Velvet and Brazil.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Me Too. :)

Anonymous said...

Also, many people these days would dislike Pauline Kael and Bosley Crowther for their controversial opinions.

Anonymous said...

Luke: What do you think of Leonard Maltin in general?

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I respect both, especially Kael, who had the balls (no pun intended) to lambast Star Wars (It is one of my favourites).

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I have a version of his film guide somewhere, but let's just say that I'm not a fan of him either.

RatedRStar said...

Siskel, Ebert and the people on this blog on the best critics and I so do mean that.

Most people in the normal world (none of us are normal and that is great) would just be like, oh because this film got an Oscar Nomination, that means its always good, this film got a high score on Rotten Tomatoes, that means its obviously good right? all of those critics like Roeper dont beat to their own drum they just become sheep.

Anonymous said...

I would like to see what Louis would think of Jessica Lange in Frances. Some people say she deserved her Oscar more than Streep. By the way, Kael was known for hating Streep and Peck very very much. She hated Eastwood so much, yet she loved Bonnie and Clyde, while Crowther hated it. Ebert was also not that big of a fan of The Graduate. Maltin loved Batman & Robin and preferred it over Dark Knight. I personally love both Burton's and Nolan's films of Batman. I don't mind Batman killing criminals, since he did that in the early comics. To me, ignoring the fact that Batman killed in his early years seems like the fans are disrespecting the work of Bob Kane, the guy who created their favorite superhero. I guess that you don't like The Graduate, huh?

luke higham said...

RatedRSTar: Don't forget Mark Kermode and The Nostalgia critic.

Anonymous said...

RatedRStar and Luke: It took so many years for Gary Oldman to get an Oscar nomination for God's sake. He should have been nominated like 8 or 9 times already.

RatedRStar said...

There is a lack of passion from film critics, Siskel and Ebert always had passion, and when a film was bad, they verbally destroyed the film with wise words and sense, and more importantly, PASSION, nowadays lots of critics just seem to trick films like its just.... a job =(.

RatedRStar said...

Yes Mark Kermode and Doug Walker are great and are passionate =D.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I love the Nostalgia Critic. What are your favorite reviews of him?

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Moulin Rouge.

RatedRStar said...

Son of the Mask is my personal favorite lol, or Mamma Mia =D.

Anonymous said...

I loved his review of Baby Geniuses. I think it's my all-time favorite. Poor Christopher Lloyd. How did he got cast for that stupid film? Oh, and Foodfight, that was such an horrible movie. I can't figure out how that film got such a huge budget. To me, most of the budget went for drugs or something. Critic's review was hilarious.

JackiBoyz said...

Pretty much all of my favorite NC reviews tend to be when it is just NC and the film, not NC, the film and some sketches which sorta take the fun out at times.

JackiBoyz said...

Although the Baby Geniuses sketch was really good lol =D, him just going mad at a convention and a hotel room is great lol.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I love everyone else's choices and I like his video on the Star Wars Prequels (11 Good Things).

Anonymous said...

I have to admit I don't like his reviews as Doug Walker.

Michael McCarthy said...

Luke, in response to your previous request:

Mulligan-4.5
Schoenarts-4
Sheen-4.5
Sturridge-2
Temple-3

Michael McCarthy said...

And for the moment, my request is James Gandolfini in The Mexican for 2001 Supporting Actor.

Michael McCarthy said...

I'm surprised people are recommending Guinness in Our Man in Havana and not The Scapegoat.

Alec Guinness-The Scapegoat
Martin LaSalle-Pickpocket
Sidney Poitier-Porgy and Bess

Plus all the other suggestions.

luke higham said...

Louis: Any changes to your Female Top 5s for 1989.

Michael Patison said...

Rating for Ossie Davis

For 1959 Lead:
Richard Burton in Look Back in Anger
Brandon de Wilde in Blue Denim
Cary Grant in North by Northwest
Jean-Pierre Leaud in The 400 Blows
Victor Sjostrom in Wild Strawberries

Others:
Anthony Franciosca in Career (ha! why am I even writing this?)
Fredric March in Middle of the Night
Toshiro Mifune in Samurai Saga (Life of an Expert Swordsman)
Toshiro Mifune in The Birth of Japan

GM said...

Anon: feel free, im just taking my time.

RatedRStar said...

Louis will you really be able to wait for Franciosa for like another year lol to see if he is great or shite =D lol ohhh admit it your tempted to add him as a bonus lol =D.

Another great mystery like Armand Asssante lol.

Anonymous said...

Louis, how many silent films have you seen?

RatedRStar said...

You know I change my mind Louis nobody wants to wait a year for a mystery to be solved =D Franciosa I summon you into the blog as the 6th nominee which doesnt count in the predictions =D

Calvin Law said...

Guinness in Our Man in Havana

Poitier in Porgy and Bess

Anonymous said...

I guess we all know what rating is Franciosa getting.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Please let it be a 0/NR.

Anonymous said...

What are your thoughts and ratings for James Mason in The Reckless Moment and Joseph Cotten in The Third Man?

luke higham said...

Anonymous:
Mason - 4.5(The films isn't particularly good and again I fail to understand why Joan Bennett was such a success, but Mason brings some energy to the proceedings to his efficient and believable portrait of a con man who slowly grows a conscience.)

Cotten - 4.5(Does his perplexed hero quite well by never making him particularly heroic. Cotten's easy going style works for his character who's kinda having an odd adventure that he had no intention of having. He slowly shows the growth of seriousness in his performance well and every one of his scenes with Welles are dynamite)

Anonymous said...

Louis , thoughts and ratings on lloyd and Wilson in Back to the future 2?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Concerning the talk about old-school critics, Maltin is a hack and Kael was sort of genius, but kind of mean at the same time.

luke higham said...

Louis: Have You Seen Ex Machina.

Calvin Law said...

Imagine if Franciosca gets a 5, LOL.

Anyway I think Stewart will win the overall. Anyone disagree?

luke higham said...

Calvin: Eh Nope, though anything could happen.

Anonymous said...

Calvin: I kinda wish Louis would give the win to Grant, even though I loved Stewart in Anatomy of a Murder.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and just another opinion that many critics would find blasphemous is that Louis preferred Sim (Scrooge), Walker (Strangers on a Train), Clift (A Place in the Sun) and Guinness (Lavender Hill Mob) over Brando (Streetcar). A huge Brando fanboy I found on YouTube and Movie Fanfare would be so pissed if he read some of Louis' reviews for some Brando performances. I think that another internet film critic I find pretentious is B+ Movie Blog. Anyone ever heard of that guy?

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Really sad not to see The Little Mermaid on here. Anyways, I loved Field of Dreams. The entire time Burt Lancaster was on screen, I was like "He seems really familiar, but where is he...." Then the movie was over and Robert Osborne mentioned him (This aired on TCM). That was my big "OH" moment of the day. Anyways, I was quite pleased to see Romero on here and the other list. I really liked it. Glory was great too, with Morgan Freeman, and Matthew Broderick was not too bad either! Really have not seen anything else this year (though I do own the Last Crusade and Ghostbuster II) I am REALLY excited for 1959, both lead and Supporting! It is one of my favorite years! My favorite movies from that year are Sleeping Beauty, Some Like It Hot, Imitation of Life, The Nun's Story, North by Northwest, Pillow Talk, and Ben-Hur. Great job on this one and good luck on the next!

luke higham said...

Anonymous: The Oscar Quest Moron.

Anonymous said...

Without a doubt, a moron indeed, Luke.

Robert MacFarlane said...

To the new guys: If you don't see a movie in the rankings, it means Louis hasn't seen it yet/barely remembers it and needs to revisit it. I think Louis mentioned he hasn't seen Little Mermaid in the comments of an older post.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I checked his blog out a long time ago and from what I remember, the only decision he made that I agreed with was Ledger in The Dark Knight.
Most of his decisions were a complete turn off, though I found this blog about 8 months after Louis's first ever post, which was the Dudley Manlove review.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Thank God for Louis Morgan, If it wasn't for him, my love for film wouldn't be as high as it is now.

Anonymous said...

Luke: Have you seen most of his blog?

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I've read about 75% of his reviews, as I was an On/Off reader, but the initial rating for DDL in TWBB really hit a nerve with me and it took quite a while for me to get over it (Once again, Thank You Louis for the upgrade). There's quite a few performances that I remember being a 5 then downgraded, such as:
Sean Penn in Dead Man Walking
Marlon Brando in The Godfather
Michael Caine in Sleuth
Ben Johnson in The Last Picture Show
Liam Neeson in Schindler's List
Dudley Moore in Arthur (Louis said it was an error)
Klaus Maria Brandauer in Mephisto (Accident)
Jeff Daniels in The Squid And The Whale (Changed over to Lead, so the rating went down)
Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie
Paul Lukas in Watch On The Rhine
And Edward Norton in American History X

Anonymous said...

So, is Brando a 5 for you in The Godfather?

Anonymous said...

Luke: Have you read most of the The Oscar Quest Blog? This guy seems like a moro. I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

*moron.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Personally, yes. Also, I was 16 and quite shy at the time when I went off which is understandable. I admit that I've too much respect for Louis to get into an argument with him or anyone else on the blog, because even in Louis's case, I know that I'd get owned and I'm not really the argumentative type. When I started posting comments on the blog back at the end of 2013, I was very humble and any performance that got a good rating from Louis, I was pleased with it, even if I hadn't seen it and I'm thankful that I've been like that ever since.

Anonymous said...

I guess I'm not that argumentative, either.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Just bits and bobs, here and there, though it's been a long time and gave up on it about a 3rd/1/2 way though.

Anonymous said...

Apparently, he said that Guinness deserved his win for 1957. But that guy is just an asshole. Not to mention he's very biased. He said that Brando deserved to win just because he's the Godfather, Bogart should have won over Lukas because his performance is more iconic...blah blah blah. Plus, he tied Sellers with Harrison. I would never give Harrison that win. I just get annoyed by musicals. I guess you like musicals, huh, Luke? Louis here seems like he doesn't really like them. He said that West Side Story is a flawed film, which would anger many snobbish movie critics. Oh, I forgot to mention that annoying phrase: If you haven't watched movie name, you're dead to me.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: He likes some overall like Willy Wonka, Les Miserables and Jesus Christ Superstar and finds redeeming qualties like Richard Attenborough's performance in Doctor Dolittle or Ewan McGregor in Moulin Rouge.

There are some musicals I don't mind watching, despite being quite flawed such as the more recent ones like Moulin Rouge, Phantom Of The Opera, Sweeney Todd, Les Miserables or even Chitty Chitty Bang Bang from the 1960s.

Anonymous said...

I only like musicals in animated form.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: So it's very much like, if you don't support my sports team, I'll bully you for the rest of your school days.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Fair enough. My favourite animated musical/film is The Hunchback Of Notre Dame.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: And Oscar Snob is a P**** haha :)

Anonymous said...

Luke: If you have seen The Lion King, I would recommend you watching this video on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y14TwUGQ3xE

Anonymous said...

It's the original ending to Lion King, by the way.

Robert MacFarlane said...

For the most part a lot of musicals don't seem to transition well from stage to screen. My favorite "modern" musicals have either been animated (Tangled, Frozen) or non-traditional ones about the music business (Inside Llewyn Davies, Begin Again).

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Why did they get rid of it. The Bastards. :(
:) But anyway, I love Circle Of Life and the animation was incredible for its time, but there are quite a few issues unfortunately for me. The 1st is that the character development for Simba was not good at all, he was an egotistical, whiny little shit who had no regard for his own safety or his friend Nala, treated his father (Headbutt) and Zazu like dirt. The 2nd is Voice Acting aside and Be Prepared, Scar was one of the most obvious villains in Disney History and 3rd was that during the end, the lionesses were so gullible into believing that Simba killed Mufasa, when even Zazu was at the stampede and Scar knocked him out.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Oh, And I shouldn't forget Timon and Pumbaa, what a manipulative pair of misfits these 2 are.

Anonymous said...

Imagine if it was the actual ending. Children would be scarred for life. Many children also were traumatized when they watched Optimus Prime and several Autobots be killed in the original 1986 Transformers movie. I think you know that the Transformers were made in the 80's right?

Robert MacFarlane said...

None of that bothers me in Lion King so much as the unintentional pro-dictator subtext.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Yes, I do know that.

Anonymous said...

Robert: I think that the filmmakers of that film were intentionally trying to make Scar look like Hitler.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I was talking about Mufasa and Simba too.

luke higham said...

Robert: Scar wasn't a wise and just ruler, he was a scheming motherfucker, so it makes sense.

Anonymous said...

If you guys have ever seen Dragon Ball Z, the original ending would been too dark and depressing. It would end with Goku and Frieza being killed in Namek's explosion.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I saw an episode or two in Spain once. I'm not the biggest fan of Anime, though, to this day I sill have a love for Digimon.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Man I fucking loved Digimon as a kid. Still love Tamers (season 3).

Anonymous said...

Luke: Oh, ok.

luke higham said...

Robert & Anonymous: I liked Yu-Gi-Oh! (Original) and absolutely hated Pokemon.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I liked the card game more for Yugioh and the video games more for Pokemon.

luke higham said...

Robert:
I liked the concept of Yu-Gi-Oh! as a child and had some affection for Joey.

Pokemon has to be one of the most repetitively boring TV Programs of all time. The only character, I gave a damn about was Mew-Two and how the fuck has Ash not even aged is beyond me.

Anonymous said...

Luke: Mr. Ketchum never ages because one day, he was bitten by a vampire Pokemon. The mysterious vampire Pokemon was never seen again.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: If that's the case, he should've dropped dead by now. :)

Also, didn't you find it irritating when Ash, Pikachu and Team Rocket, were saying the same limes and had the same emotions over and over again. The 'I've got the F*** You Badge' line was like nails on the fucking chalkboard.

Michael McCarthy said...

I've seen every single episode of DragonballZ. It's a very flawed show, but I still love it and think there's a lot of unappreciated cleverness behind it.

If anyone's interested in a really good anime, check out Steins;gate. It's incredibly entertaining and possibly the most intelligent show about time travel there is.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I found a very interesting fan theory.
http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/07/01/pokemon-fan-theory-proposes-a-devastating-reason-for-why-ash-never-ages-3349999?lt_source=external,manual
I loved Pokemon as a kid, but eventually started to bore me.
I love G1 Transformers (even with it's flaws), Beast Wars, Animated and Prime.

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: Just for the record, the actors felt the same way about the repetitive lines.

luke higham said...

*Lines instead of Limes.

luke higham said...

Matt Mustin: That's good to know. :)

Robert MacFarlane said...

The direction the Pokemon voice actors was generally "say the line, get out".

luke higham said...

Anonymous: Die, Pikachu Die. :)

Anonymous said...

In my country, Portugal, Pokemon, Captain Tsubasa and Dragon Ball happen to be the most famous animes.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: God help them (For the former, not the 2nd or the latter one).

Robert MacFarlane said...

The only anime I can think of that I could defend the artistic merit of 100% is Paranoia Agent. Satoshi Kon was a genius. God rest his soul.

Anonymous said...

Luke: Many teachers at the universities would allow their students to watch Dragon Ball. It even aired on one of the main channels. Many people even recognize the voices of the voice actors easily. We had 10 voice actors and they all worked in theatre. Sadly, it was one of the first dubbings Portugal made. I think we're getting better with our dubbings. You see, our first dubbing of a Disney movie was The Lion King. Until that time, we had to watch Disney films in Brazilian Portuguese.

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I'm sure their hard work will pay off. :)

Anonymous said...

Luke: Our voice actors say that the reason why Dragon Ball was such a success was their ad-libbing for certain parts. I disagree. I think that Dragon Ball became so popular due to its violence and continuity.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I recall liking her just fine, but I have to admit I have not seen the film in some time.

Luke:

Dafoe - 3.5(It does seem up to the actors in a Stone film, and Dafoe is able to give quite the effective portrayal his character's degraded state. He managed to show the anguish of such a character without going over the top, and frankly I would have preferred if the film had covered his life)

Robards - 3.5(Parenthood is a bit all over the place, but for me the best part easily was the scene between Jason Robards and Tom Hulce. Robards does well in conveying the sense of nostalgia in his character as he sees in his youngest son himself, but is quite moving as he slowly realizes himself that this is not a good thing)

DeVito - 3.5(DeVito is enjoyable as kind of the dead pan moral guide for the film, and every switch back to him is quite entertaining in portraying his character's confusion over just how determined the Roses are)

Ramis - 3.5(Some more good old Eagon if you ask me. Not as good as the original I suppose but does the dead pan intellectual rather brilliantly)

Hawke - 3.5(Hawke adds a lot to the film through his mostly reactive performance but delivers a considerable weight to the proceedings by showing the emotional toll of various events throughout the story)

Turturro - 3.5(I like Turturro here because he does not overplay his character, which would have been easy to overemphasize the hatred of the character. He never makes him a caricature though revealing his hate in a from of his own insecurity that is quite effective, and it always feels natural rather than just making his character a straw man which he easily could have been)

Lloyd - 4(Lloyd once again gets the far better arc than Fox does in the sequel. Lloyd is very good here in his portrayal of Doc's growing distaste with time travel, and portrays the way the mistakes pain him. I would say he's given a bit less comic material to work with in this film for some reason, but he certainly once again delivers in the part)

Louis Morgan said...

Orbach - 4(Adds a lot with his character as you real feel the relationship between the brothers in just a couple of scenes. You get the sense of the bad blood between the two in a couple of scenes. Orbach is very effective in realizing the street smart sensibilities of the man who is completely okay with murder, and almost seems to enjoy that his brother has come down to his level)

MacNicol - 4(He's way over the top to be sure, but for my money hilariously so. He delivers the most memorable aspect of the sequel through his enjoyably ridiculous performance)

Pesci - 4(I do need a re-watch but I recall him being a great comedic presence in the film)

Freeman - 4(This is in Freeman wheelhouse of the dignified man, but he does it quite well here. He portrays the serious passions that propel the man forward, and is terrific in the scene where he confronts Washington's character)

Braugher - 4(Braugher gives an interesting performance as he portrays an over eagerness to help and as he believes to improve his fellow soldiers before he really understand them even. Braugher effectively breaks this down as he portrays a certain loss in his character as he realizes his position more fully. He's great in his confrontation scenes with Washington as he so honestly realizes his character's vulnerabilities)

Davis - 4.5(Davis does some grand work in that on the surface he shows the mayor as basically the flamboyant man of the neighborhood who seems to have a delusion in the way he treats everything so brightly. The problem is he's really just the neighborhood bum, and is quite affecting by presenting the certain sadness in his character as he attempts to be a wise old man despite not really be respected as such)

Tom:

Hey Tom, longtime no see. Haven't seen several of those, and don't really remember Lloyd's performance. In regards to Wilson I suppose I'm being a little hard on him since I do like him as old Biff, Middle Biff, and Griff. My problem is I hate how portrays young Biff in this film. He goes from a dumb bully to a full blown psychopath, and I think the final scenes suffer from his performance where he makes Biff seem suddenly like a deranged killer.

I don't have the same problems with Ghostbusters 2 that you do, and I have to admit it's a time where I don't understand why people would hate the film. Yeah, it's not as good as the first one, but I don't see how it's so terrible.

Anonymous:

Can't give you an exact number, but I've seen some, need to see many more though.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

I say Ex Machina.

Louis Morgan said...

Oh and the Expendables made in 1973 directed by Franklin J. Schaffner:

Barney Ross: Charles Bronson
Lee Christmas: Robert Shaw
Yin Yang: Bruce Lee
Gunner Jensen: Richard Kiel
Church: Steve McQueen
Trench: Charlton Heston

The Villain: Donald Sutherland