Saturday, 16 May 2015

Alternate Best Actor 2007

And the Nominees Were Not:

Brad Pitt in The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford

Joaquin Phoenix in We Own the Night

Chris Cooper in Breach

Cillian Murphy in Sunshine

Lau Ching Wan in Mad Detective

Predict Those Five or These Five:

Casey Affleck in Gone Baby Gone

Philip Seymour Hoffman in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Christian Bale in Rescue Dawn

James McAvoy in Atonement

John C. Reilly in Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story

Or both. 

73 comments:

Matt Mustin said...

Group 1:
1.Phoenix
2.Pitt
3.Murphy
4.Lau Ching Wan
5.Cooper

Group 2
1.Hoffman
2.Affleck
3.Bale
4.McAvoy
5.Reilly

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Group 1:

1. Phoenix
2. Pitt
3. Wan
4. Cooper
5. Murphy

Group 2:

1. Hoffman
2. Reilly
3. Affleck
4. Bale
5. McAvoy

Michael McCarthy said...

I'll start with Group 2, I'll get back to you on Group 1.

1. Philip Seymour Hoffman
2. John C. Reilly
3. Casey Affleck
4. Christian Bale
5. James McAvoy

mcofra7 said...

Group 1
1. Phoenix
2. Pitt
3. Wan
4. Murphy
5. Cooper
Group 2
1. Hoffman
2. Affleck
3. Bale
4. Reilly
5. McAvoy

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Group 1
1. Wan
2. Phoenix
3. Pitt
4. Cooper
5. Murphy
Group 2
1. Hoffman
2. Affleck
3. Bale
4. Reilly
5. McAvoy

Psifonian said...

Group 1:

1. Pitt
2. Cooper
3. Phoenix
4. Murphy
5. Wan

Group 2:

1. Reilly
2. Hoffman
3. Bale
4. Affleck
5. McAvoy

Michael Patison said...

Group 1:
1. Brad Pitt
2. Chris Cooper
3. Joaquin Phoenix
4. Cillian Murphy
5. Lau Ching-Wan

Group 2:
1. Philip Seymour Hoffman
2. John C. Reilly
3. Christian Bale
4. Casey Affleck
5. James McAvoy

Anonymous said...

1. Pitt
2. Phoenix
3. Murphy
4. Cooper
5. Wan

1. Hoffman
2. Reilly
3. Bale
4. Affleck
5. McAvoy (although I love him and I hope you'll like him more this time)

Maciej said...

1. Pitt
2. Cooper
3. Wan
4. Murphy
5. Phoenix

1. Hoffman
2. Affleck
3. McAvoy
4. Bale
5. Reilly

RatedRStar said...

1)Pitt
2)Phoenix
3)Cooper
4)Wan
5)Murphy

1)Affleck
2)Hoffman
3)Bale
4)Reilly
5)McAvoy

JackiBoyz said...

1)Pitt
2)Phoenix
3)Cooper
4)Murphy
5)Wan

1)Hoffman
2)Bale
3)Affleck
4)Reilly
5)McAvoy

luke higham said...

Section 1
1. Wan
2. Phoenix
3. Pitt
4. Cooper
5. Murphy

Section 2
1. Affleck
2. Bale
3. Hoffman
4. Reilly
5. McAvoy

luke higham said...

Louis: With Reilly, please watch the Unrated Extended Version.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

I think the overall top 10 will be:

1. Casey Affleck in The Assassination of Jesse James
2. Lau Ching Wan in Mad Detective
3. Philip Seymour Hoffman in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
4. Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood
5. Joaquin Phoenix in We Own the Night
6. Casey Affleck in Gone Baby Gone
7. Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises
8. Brad Pitt in The Assassination of Jesse James
9. Christian Bale in Rescue Dawn
10. John C. Reilly in Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (I really need to watch this one)

My personal top 10:
1. Casey Affleck in The Assasination of Jesse James
2. Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood
3. Mathieu Almaric in The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
4. Lau Ching Wan in Mad Detective
5. Philip Seymour Hoffman in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
6. James McAvoy in Atonement
7. Christian Bale in Rescue Dawn
8. Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises
9. Casey Affleck in Gone Baby Gone
10. Ryan Gosling in Lars and the Real Girl

luke higham said...

Louis: I know this is a bit early, but can I have your thoughts on the latest episode of Game Of Thrones later tonight.

luke higham said...

Louis: Lastly, please watch Marion Cotillard's performance in La Vie En Rose.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@Luke: I just re-watched La Vie En Rose and though I found some rather noticeable flaws in the film's storytelling structure I thought Cotillard was even more amazing than I remembered, she's in my top 10 all-time female lead performances now. What are your top 10 (or 5, if you haven't seen that much of her) Cotillard performances?

1. La Vie En Rose
2. Rust and Bone
3. Two Days, One Night
4. The Immigrant
5. Inception
6. Pretty Things
7. A Very Long Engagement
8. Public Enemies
9. Nine
10. Midnight in Paris

First 4 are all 5's, 5-8 are 4.5's verging on 5's, and 9-10 are strong 4.5's.

luke higham said...

GDSAO:
1. The Immigrant - 5
2. La Vie En Rose - 5
3. Two Days, One Night - 5
4. Rust And Bone - 5
5. Inception - 4.5
6. Public Enemies - 4.5
7. Midnight In Paris - 4
8. Nine - 4
9. The Dark Knight Rises - 2.5
That's About it.

luke higham said...

GDSAO: I'm predicting 4.5s at least for everyone apart from McAvoy.

luke higham said...

1. Affleck
2. Hoffman
3. Bale
4. Reilly
5. McAvoy

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@Luke: Do you think, there's a chance Louis will bump Daniel Day-Lewis up to a 5?

luke higham said...

GDSAO: Well, there's always a chance, but I doubt it. I think Louis will stand firm on his original criticism.
I'd give Day-Lewis a 5 and when he was given a 4.5 on the initial review, boy, was I pissed off, although I'm over it now. I'd say that was the only rating for a performance, that I've disagreed with on some level.

GM said...

Group 1:
1. Wan
2. Pitt
3. Phoenix
4. Murphy
5. Cooper

Group 2:
1. Reilly
2. Hoffman
3. Bale
4. Affleck
5. McAvoy

luke higham said...

Louis: For The Bonus Rounds
Tony Leung Chiu-Wai in Lust, Caution
Mathieu Amalric in The Diving Bell And The Butterfly
Sam Riley in Control
And Karl Markovics in The Counterfeiters

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@Luke: Oh well, there's always a hope :)

luke higham said...

GDSAO & RatedRStar: What ratings, do you predict for each performance in those two lineups, with personal bias aside.

luke higham said...

Wan - 5
Affleck - 5
Hoffman - 5
Bale - 5
Reilly - 4.5/5 (His Dylan Impersonation is fucking hilarious)
Pitt - 4.5/5
Phoenix - 4.5
Cooper - 4.5
Murphy - 4.5
McAvoy - 3

moviefilm said...

1) Cillian Murphy
2) Joaquin Phoenix
3) Chris Cooper
4) Brad Pitt
5) Lau Ching Wan

1) Philip Seymour Hoffman
2) Casey Affleck
3) Christian Bale
4) Johny C. Reilly
5) James McAvoy

moviefilm said...

As for Cotillard:

1) La vie en rose - 5
2) Rust and Bone - 4.5
3) The Immigrant - 4.5
4) Nine - 4 (leaning to 4.5)
5) Midnight in Paris - 4
6) Inception - 4
7) Two Days, One Night - 4
8) The Dark Knight Rises - 3 (? I don't know, I barely even remember her)

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

I think:

Wan - 5
Affleck - 4.5
Hoffman - 5
Bale - 4.5
Reilly - 4.5
Pitt - 4/4.5
Phoenix - 4.5
Cooper - 4/4.5
Murphy - 4
McAvoy - 3.5/4

Matt Mustin said...

Have the people predicting Reilly to be that high actually seen the movie?

luke higham said...

Matt Mustin: To my knowledge, only myself and Psifonian have seen it, plus his taste is usually similar to Louis's.

Matt Mustin said...

luke: I've seen it, and I think he's fine. I'm not a big fan of the movie, but the parts I like aren't really because of him.

luke higham said...

Matt Mustin: Well, no one here will force you to change your views on his performance, I can understand why It didn't work as well for you than it did for me and Psifonian. Lastly, most people have Reilly, higher than you'd expect, because Psifonian's pretty reliable, heck, I didn't even give PSH a snowball's chance in hell for Along Came Polly.

Michael McCarthy said...

Did anyone else see the Mad Men finale?

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Yeah, I did. It's thematically satisfying, though I still don't know how much I actually liked it. Loved the Peggy stuff.

Michael McCarthy said...

Ok now for Group 1 I think I'm gonna go with

1. Joaquin Phoenix
2. Chris Cooper
3. Lau Ching Wan
4. Brad Pitt
5. Cillian Murphy

Also, what did people think of the Steve Jobs teaser? I was really impressed with the makeup job they did on Fassy.

Matt Mustin said...

Oh my God, I *just* realized Josh Brolin isn't in this lineup. Odd.

luke higham said...

Michael McCarthy: I liked it very well but at this moment in time, I won't get my hopes up for it. I would've preferred Fincher directing, but will have to make do anyway. Fassbender's accent isn't perfect by any means, but from what I've heard it's thankfully good enough. If all does go well, then I spoke too soon, saying it was a guarantee for 2015 being Tom Hardy's year.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

It looks like it will at least be better than the Kutcher one, though my faith in Sorkin has diminished considerably after the farrago known as The Newsroom.

RatedRStar said...

Michael Fassbender actually looks really good lol =D, well as long as Fassbender gets nominated, for whichever film I will be happy.

luke higham said...

RatedRStar: It will be a dream come true if Fassbender and Hardy, both won Oscars in the same year. Personally, I don't mind waiting another ten years for Leo to win, than I would with Michael and Tom.

Cate Blanchett, as well as maybe, Rooney Mara, should win the Best Actress Award at Cannes and I think at the moment, Blanchett's the most likely to get a 5 from Louis this year.

luke higham said...

Louis: As of right now, what are your predictions for the nominations in the acting categories, plus the winner from each category.

luke higham said...

Louis: Ratings & Thoughts on the cast of Mad Max: Fury Road, as well as your thoughts on the film itself.

luke higham said...

Louis: Your previous comment was deleted.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke: I'll definitely make sure to watch La Vie En Rose.

In regards to Game of Thrones, well that ending was dark. All the tension is being turned up to eleven in the best possible way, as every storyline, save for one, although that might be saved by different one, is some of the most compelling of seen from the show. The acting here was particularly superb, Pryce is continuing to be great, Rigg made a particularly triumphant return, Dinklage finally got to do some classic Tyrion, but the best came from two silent reactions Iain Glen's when Jorah finally learned about his father, and Alfie Allen's at the ending were both heartbreaking. Although I do have to note I still found the Sand Snakes to be pretty lame.

Actor:

Leonardo DiCaprio - The Revenant (Winner)
Michael Fassbender - Steve Jobs
Eddie Redmayne - The Danish Girl
Jake Gyllenhaal - Demolition
Ben Foster - Icon

Actress:

Carey Mulligan - Suffragette (Winner, I guess)
Jennifer Lawrence - Joy
Cate Blanchett - Carol
Maryl Streep - Ricki and the Flash
Julianne Moore - Freeheld

Supporting Actor:

Tom Hardy - The Revenant (Winner)
Samuel L. Jackson - The Hateful Eight
Bradley Cooper - Joy
Mark Rylance - Bridge of Spies
Jude Law - Genius

Supporting Actress:

Naomi Watts - Demolition
Rooney Mara - Carol (as they seem to refuse two in a lead category these days)
Marion Cotillard - Macbeth
Kristin Stewart - Clouds of Sils Maria
Helena Bonham Carter - Suffragette

Also I saw Mad Max.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar:

Really I should, although let me explain why. I probably have seen There Will Be Blood more times than any film in the last tens years. It's a film though that I have always been slightly at odds with due to certain moments, yet the strength of so many scenes is to the point that it's one of the most remarkable cinematic achievements from the 00's. The same goes for Day-Lewis. My opinion since the review has not changed, but the overall creation of Daniel Plainview and the high points of his performance, which actually is some of the best acting I've ever seen, I think do overcome my reservations.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I'm withholding judgment on the final scene of the last GoT episode until I see how this plays out down the road. I will say that scene feels far less out of place and schlocky as last season's... similar scene.

Michael McCarthy said...

I try to forget about that scene in season 4 because I know it wasn't supposed to be what it came off as. The director really wanted to play that scene as Cersei just feeling nervous and ashamed of what she was willfully doing under the circumstances, but the director went overboard in that respect to the point where it unmistakably came off as a rape. It's easier for me to look past it when I see it as a filmmaking screwup rather than something that actually happened in the story.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I don't buy that argument. To me it's obvious that it was exactly meant to be rape and the producers backtracked when the controversy started. The scene ultimately is alluded to only once afterwards, and more through Lena Heady's performance than the script's. Even of it was a technical screw up, it still be inexcusable.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

As I see it:

Actor: 

Leonardo DiCaprio - The Revenant
Michael Fassbender - Steve Jobs
Eddie Redmayne - The Danish Girl
Jake Gyllenhaal - Demolition
Tom Courtenay - 45 Years/Ben Foster - Icon

Actress:

Carey Mulligan - Suffragette
Jennifer Lawrence - Joy
Cate Blanchett - Carol
Meryl Streep - Ricki and the Flash
Emily Blunt - Sicario


Supporting Actor:

Tom Hardy - The Revenant
Samuel L. Jackson - The Hateful Eight
Ben Whishaw - Suffragette
Mark Rylance - Bridge of Spies
Idris Elba - Beasts of No Nation

Supporting Actress:

Naomi Watts - Demolition
Rooney Mara - Carol (category fraud)
Marion Cotillard - Macbeth
Helena Bonham Carter - Suffragette
Alicia Vikander - The Danish Girl (category fraud)

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Well I have my favorite film of the year, it's meaningless at the moment, but it will take a great film to dethrone this one. One of the best action movies ever, and I love how Miller's gone back and perhaps made the Mad Max film he always wanted to. It's technically speaking one extended version of the final chase from Road Warrior, and it's amazing that is all there needs to be. It realizes its weird world this time so well as it creates a such a palatable atmosphere, you know the world so fast, and understand
where the characters have come from without seeing it. Every set piece, big or large, seemed to bring something special and the sequences here are astonishing. Behind it there is a tremendous dramatic heft that Miller somehow manages to weave into it. It is truly an achievement in film making.

Hardy - 4.5(A more than worthy replacement for Gibson, and I love how Hardy in no way copies anything about Gibson's work yet you still feel he's also Mad Max. Hardy's Max is a much darker figure and I really liked how he played the madness of the character into this withdrawn intensity. He does not speak much but when he does you feel the weight of his life in his voice. Along with that though he is cool bad ass as he should be, but every action scene Hardy sells every development with his performance. With time I could upgrade him actually as this is fantastic minimalistic work)

Theron - 4.5(On that same note Theron is also doing terrific work here as well. What I love is that even though she and Max are in the same vein she does not feel like his replicant. She matches Hardy in terms of intensity and bringing the needed vividness to the actions. She also is very effective in the way she quietly taps into the vulnerabilities of her character. I have to say she and Hardy here had remarkable chemistry but in their own way that was most unique, as they create a connection between two loners)

You know you never know I'll save Hoult.

I think the whole ensemble was great here as they added something to the film even in just a few reactions shots even. I have to also say I liked that Toecutter returned as the villain, I'd love it if Kjell Nilsson would return if there is a sequel.

luke higham said...

Hooray, another 4.5 for Hardy.

Michael McCarthy said...

Robert: I'm not saying that anything about how they did that scene was ok. Just that even if they meant to make it a rape at the time, they've at least tried to change it within the context of the story.

luke higham said...

And he might get a 5 in the future, my day just got better.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Luke: What a day...what a lovely day!!!

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Confession: I actually thought Hoult and Theron were more impressive than Hardy.

luke higham said...

KoooK160: That's fine, not everyone's going to agree on everything.

Louis: By the way, all is forgiven with Day-Lewis.

luke higham said...

Thank you, Louis, I fucking love you. Day-Lewis is a 5 for There Will Be Blood.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@Luke: He's also 51 in Louis' rankings now, not bad haha just behind Cagney's great performance in Angels with Dirty Faces.

luke higham said...

GDSAO: All that matters to me, is that he's a 5 now, I've literally got tears of joy right now.

mcofra7 said...

YES!!! I'll admit he is a bit theatrical but I still love the performance. One of my all time favorites.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

As much as I adore that performance and think it deserves a 5... I Was kind of hoping he would stay a 4.5 so Casey Affleck would have less competition for the gold.

Matt Mustin said...

Seeing as he still has reservations, I don't think Day-Lewis is gonna take the overall (but he absolutely should).

luke higham said...

Koook160: Affleck's gonna win, I guaran-fucking-tee it.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Well he should.

mcofra7 said...

Oh boy Day-Lewis and Affleck in the same year. As much as I love Day-Lewis Affleck gives one of my favorite performances of all time.

Matt Mustin said...

I can actually pretty easily give the win to Day-Lewis.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I'm not gonna lie, it's not really that close for me when it comes to Casey Affleck in Jesse James.

luke higham said...

KoooK160: It's my favourite of the year too, although I've never been one to give a shit on who Louis picks, as his overall winner. I am glad, that the year is all the more stronger now, with Day-Lewis's 5.

luke higham said...

Louis: Who are your top ten directors under the age of 50. Your number 1 has to be PTA.

Anonymous said...

Louis, would you say you're looking forward to see Carol or you are pretty much indifferent about it?

luke higham said...

Anonymous: I'm looking forward to it, Blanchett's one of my favourite actresses, alongside Cotillard, Mulligan, Chastain and Watts.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I'm interested in it well enough, particularly for the performances. It's not one of my most anticipated or anything, but I'll have no trouble finding the motivation to watch it.

Luke:

1. Paul Thomas Anderson
2. Christopher Nolan
3. Martin McDonagh
4. Edgar Wright
5. Bong Joon-ho
6. Wes Anderson
7. Nicolas Winding-Refn
8. Jeff Nichols
9. David Michod
10. Ben Affleck