Saturday, 14 March 2015

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1972

And The Nominees Were Not:

Eddie Axberg in The New Land

Ian Bannen in The Offence

Ned Beatty in Deliverance

Bruce Dern in The Cowboys

Robert Shaw in Young Winston

45 comments:

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

1. Shaw
2. Dern
3. Axberg
4. Bannen
5. Beatty

luke higham said...

1. Dern
2. Shaw
3. Bannen
4. Beatty
5. Axberg

RatedRStar said...

Um I will go for Axberg, I guess lol =D I have no idea lol.

1)Axberg
2)Shaw
3)Bannen
4)Beatty
5)Dern

Omg that death scene in Game Of Thrones, at first reminded me of the creators death in Blade Runner except that was done well mostly off screen, but wow, I will tell you what it felt like, its like when someone pranks you by putting on headphones and watching one of those videos where right at the end a loud scream happens, its like, it made me proper ill inside lol. Its like, oh no I dont wanna watch anymore lol =D.

RatedRStar said...

I need a hug that was so awful lol =D.

luke higham said...

RatedRSar: I feel your pain :)

I'm predicting a fiveless year by the way.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

1. Shaw
2. Bannen
3. Dern
4. Axberg
5. Beatty

RatedRStar said...

I feel like that woman when Carrie grabs her hand from the grave lol =D.

luke higham said...

Louis: Ratings & Thoughts on any 3.5+ performances in The Poseidon Adventure, as well as Borgnine. The same again for Helmut Greim & Fritz Wepper in Cabaret, Ronnie Cox in Deliverance, Alastair Sim in The Ruling Class, Gene Hackman in Prime Cut, Barry Foster in Frenzy and John Cazale in The Godfather.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Also Louis can I have your thoughts and raings on:

Ernest Borgnine in The Poseidon Adventure
John Cazale in The Godfather
Barry Foster and Alec McCowan in Frenzy
Fritz Wepper and Helmut Griem in Cabaret

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Oh thanks Luke haha :D

GM said...

1. Dern
2. Shaw
3. Axberg
4. Bannen
5. Beatty

Michael Patison said...

1. Eddie Axberg
2. Robert Shaw
3. Bruce Dern
4. Ned Beatty
5. Ian Bannen

luke higham said...

I'm gonna change my prediction
1. Shaw
2. Dern
3. Bannen
4. Axberg
5. Beatty

Anonymous said...

1. Shaw
2. Axberg
3. Dern
4. Bannen
5. Beatty

Maciej said...

1. Shaw
2. Beatty
3. Axberg
4. Bannen
5. Dern

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

What are your thoughts/ratings on:
Duane Jones in Night of the Living Dead
Steve McQueen in Bullit

luke higham said...

GDSAO & RatedRStar: Have you seen Ken Loach's Kes, if so, what are your rating & thoughts on David Bradley's performance.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Luke: I haven't no, but I really should, since I do like the little I have seen from Loach so far. Has anyone requested him for Louis to review?

I have finally just seen Once Upon a Time in the West and Louis, I hate trying to impose my will upon you, but um, how close is Charles Bronson to a 5 for his performance there, as great as Fonda and Robards are it's Bronson who really made the film for me with possibly my all-time favourite depiction of a man of the Wild West.

RatedRStar said...

@Luke: I live in Barnsley so I sure have =D lol.

David Bradley (4) I liked Bradleys work here as he actually seemed like a real kid, doing kiddish things rather than an obvious directed child, his rather negative outlook is fairly well done as well as his change as he grows more positive before he makes a huge mistake which costs the live of his friend, his reaction in the final scene is well done and realistically overacted as a little kid would overact wildly if his friend had just died.

luke higham said...

GDSAO: No, but I hope he does get reviewed for 1970 Lead, since some have compared his performance to Jean-Pierre Leaud in The 400 Blows as one of the all time great portrayals of an adolescent.

luke higham said...

RatedRStar & GDSAO: Your rating & thoughts on Jean-Pierre Leaud in The 400 Blows.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

I would give him a solid 4.5. His performance is one that necessitates repeated re-watching to really understand its brilliance because he starts off as a bit of a blank slate and gradually paints in strokes of unhappiness and discontent. He never has a 'big' emotional scene, rather he shows it through a gradual progression that is rather beautifully done.

Jean-Pierre Leaud would make my 1959 lineup if it wasn't for the incredibly strong performances of Stockwell, Grant, Stewart, Cushing and Guinness (who I've bumped up to a 5 on re-watch for Our Man in Havana)

luke higham said...

GDSAO & RatedRStar: Final question, your top ten performances by a child/adolescent with your ratings as well.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

1. Martin Stephens, The Innocents-5
2. Jodie Foster, Taxi Driver-5
3. Christian Bale, Empire of the Sun-5
4. Hayley Joel Osment, The Sixth Sense-4.5
5. Natalie Portman, Leon-4.5
6. Hugh O'Connor, My Left Foot-4.5
7. Peter Billingsley, A Christmas Story-4.5
8. Jean-Pierre Leaud, The 400 Blows-4.5
9. Tom Holland, The Impossible-4
10. Natalie Wood, Miracle on 34th Street-4

moviefilm said...

1) Ned Beatty
2) Robert Shaw
3) Bruce Dern
4) Ian Bannen
5) Eddie Axberg

Anonymous said...

@GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar: what would you give to Pamela Franklin in The Innocents? To me she was even better than Stephens and she had a much more challenging role as her creepiness was supposed to be much more subtler than his, and she was perfectly up to the task.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@Anonymous: Damn I forgot to include her. I'd give her a 4.5, above Osment. I thought she was great too, but Stephens had more of an impact on me, and I found his chemistry with Kerr particularly fascinating, although Franklin was certainly no slouch there as as well.

luke higham said...

GDSAO: As of now, the only child/adolescent performances, that received a 5 star rating from Louis, were in fact, Pamela Franklin's work in The Innocents and Patty Duke in The Miracle Worker. I personally wish that some day, he'll give a male child actor a 5 star rating, if its even possible.

luke higham said...

Louis: I'd like to ask you on what does it take for a child actor (regardless of gender) to get a 5 star rating from you.

Grady Tripp said...

Hey Louis, will Sean Connery be included in your 1972 lead line-up for The Offence, now that you're reviewing Ian Bannen? I sure hope so! It's one of my favorite Connery roles!

luke higham said...

Grady Tripp: I don't think Louis will review him unless he's fucking amazing like Richard Attenborough in 10 Rillington Place, because for the bonus rounds, he'll only review performances that he hasn't seen/not listed in his overall rankings for all of the years, he's covered so far.

JackiBoyz said...

1. Shaw
2. Dern
3. Bannen
4. Axberg
5. Beatty

Grady Tripp said...

Luke: I don't mean that Louis has to *review* the Connery performance in The Offence, but it would be surprising if he didn't include him in his lead line-up at all, as he's obviously watching the film...

luke higham said...

Grady Tripp: Well, we'll see, anyway, I'd be a bit disappointed if he received a 5 and wasn't reviewed, as it tends to bother me a bit as a reader, when he sees in his eyes a 5 star performance and doesn't review him, but, yet again, it's his blog, so I can't really complain about it.

luke higham said...

Grady Tripp: I understand what you meant now, with the ranking being in your turn of phrase, the lead line up.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Borgnine - 2.5(He rather strangely goes way over the top like it's an absurdest comedy for the first half of his performance Stella Stevens does the same as his wife so maybe they were just given bad direction in their scenes together. Either way it does not work. Thankfully he drops the act in the second half and is actually pretty good once he seems to take the material seriously)

Greim - 3.5(He's decent enough at just being the somewhat slick rich playboy type, but really the highlight of his performance is his chemistry with York. They don't say a single thing about the two out loud but they certainly more than enough in simply the way they interact with each other)

Wepper - 3(He's just fine in playing up the earnestness and certain uncertainty of his character. He does not make too much of an impact though)

Cox - 4(I quite liked his performance as he set himself apart nicely in the early scenes as he shows just an lack of pretension in Drew in his desire basically to enjoy the trip as he clearly not there to prove something like Reynolds's Lewis. He also deserves special notice in the "dueling banjos" scene as he's terrific in realize the enthusiasm and amazement of the whole moment rather effectively. When the film takes his dark turn he's also good in playing the moral outrage of Drew in a quietly moving fashion where he in no way makes Drew seem like some sort of pompous fool)

Sim - 4(Every time he shows up he's a hoot. He's purposefully one note, but luckily that is a golden note. I particularly enjoyed the moment where he nervously avoids kneeling before Peter O'Toole wannabe Christ)

Hackman - 4(Again this is a film that probably should have embraced its absurdity more leaving the whole thing from hitting the jugular as it should. Anyways though Hackman is good in being an evil good old boy. He brings enough menace and is entertaining enough, but the film doesn't give him enough material to make something truly special out of the role here)

Foster - 3.5(This is a strange case in that I really don't have any problems with his performance, but I just don't think he's that great. He hits the right moments in portraying a psychopath, but I just never found him that engaging for whatever reason)

Cazale - 4(Everything that was great about his performance in II can be found here, but here it almost seems like the audition for II due to how brief his appearances are. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, the strength of his performance here is what convinced Coppola to expand the role in the sequel)

In regards to child performances: nothing more than what I mentioned in my review of Joaquin Phoenix in Her. I will admit Stephens was close and a re-watch could tip him over to a five for me.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar:

Bronson is very close for me.

McCowan - 3.5(Kinda doing John Williams in Dial M for Murder, which is fine in that he's enjoyable in the same way where he stays overly proper even when talking about some very dark things)

McQueen - 4(It's been awhile since I've watched the film. I recall McQueen bringing his usual cool as needed though also effectively conveyed the character's moral trepidations of his life throughout the story)

Jones - 3.5(Another one that I have not seen in a long time. I recall Jones being rather good in simply expressing a down to earth reaction to the insane situation he ends up with as the one man who keeps his head throughout. I believe his final scenes in the basement were particularly good in just showing a realistic distress at having to kill the zombies down there)

RatedRStar said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpLpvsRH61w

I found The Offence (1972), the only problem is that it is lightened differently, probably so that it stays on YouTube. If you can get past that YouTube issue, it is a pretty effective drama.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis, and anyone else if you want, what are your top 5 choices for Original and Adapted Screenplay of 2014?

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Just a reminder, Louis, that The Babadook counts as Adapted.

Matt Mustin said...

Is The Babadook similar to the Whiplash situation? Because I consider that one Original.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I'm just going to level with you on the whole Adapted/Original thing; I don't really care one way or another. I tend to go by whether it was definitely based on something or not. Whiplash's short film inspiration was proof of concept so it could get made. The Babadook's was a short film that was made under the assumption it would never be more than that.

Matt Mustin said...

The reason I consider Whiplash original is because the full screenplay was written first, and the "short film" was just a scene from the screenplay.

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

Original:

1. Birdman
2. Whiplash
3. The Grand Budapest Hotel
4. Nightcrawler
5. Locke

Adapted:

1. Inherent Vice
2. The Drop
3. A Most Wanted Man
4. Edge of Tomorrow
5. Foxcatcher

Matt Mustin said...

Why do you consider Foxcatcher adapted?

Louis Morgan said...

Ah yes I forgot...they decided it was not based on the book.

alright then.

Original:

1. Birdman
2. Whiplash
3. The Grand Budapest Hotel
4. Nightcrawler
5. Locke

Adapted:

1. Inherent Vice
2. The Drop
3. A Most Wanted Man
4. Edge of Tomorrow
5. The Babadook