Wednesday, 27 August 2014

Alternate Best Actor 2004

And the Nominees Were Not:

Bruno Ganz in Downfall

Javier Bardem in The Sea Inside

Jim Carrey in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Paul Giamatti in Sideways

Kevin Bacon in The Woodsman

And Bonus Review:
Will Ferrell in Anchorman

62 comments:

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

1. Bacon
2. Giamatti
3. Ganz
4. Carrey
5. Bardem

Also, what are your thoughts on Edward Norton and Sidney Poitier as actors, generally.

luke higham said...

1. Ganz
2. Carrey
3. Bacon
4. Giamatti
5. Bardem

Louis: Can you save Bale for the Bonus Rounds please.

Also your rating & extended thoughts on Simon Pegg in Shaun of the Dead.

Scott Gingold said...

1. Giamatti
2. Ganz
3. Carrey
4. Bacon
5. Bardem

moviefilm said...

1) Bruno Ganz
2) Paul Giamatti
3) Jim Carrey
4) Kevin Bacon
5) Javier Bardem

Fisti said...

UM...JEFF BRIDGES! Like, WTF!

1) Giamatti
2) Ganz
3) Carey

NS/the others

Michael Patison said...

1. Jim Carrey
2. Bruno Ganz
3. Paul Giamatti
4. Kevin Bacon
5. Javier Bardem

If you dislike Bardem as much as you tend to in his more emotionally demanding performances, then Ferrell could even finish higher than him.

Ratings (and thoughts if you want) on William Powell in The Kennel Murder Case and Robert Armstrong in King Kong

luke higham said...

Michael Patison & RatedRStar: What are your predicted ratings for all 5 including Ferrell.

Mine are
Ganz - 5
Carrey - 5
Bacon - 4.5 to 5
Giamatti - 4.5
Bardem - 4
Ferrell - 3.5

Michael Patison said...

Bacon: 4.5
Bardem (if he likes him): 4
Bardem (if he doesn't): 2
Carrey: 5
Farrell: 3.5
Ganz: 5
Giamatti: 5

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

1. Carrey
2. Ganz
3. Giamatti
4. Bacon
5. Bardem

Psifonian said...

1. Bardem
2. Ganz
3. Bacon
4. Carrey
5. Giamatti

I should've staked my claim on Murray for "Zissou." Oh well, you better review Dafoe.

Kevin said...

@Psifonian:

What is your rating as well as your thoughts on Murray?

Kevin said...

1. Ganz
2. Carrey
3. Giamatti
4. Bacon
5. Bardem

Lezlie said...

1. Bruno Ganz
2. Paul Giamatti
3. Jim Carrey
4. Kevin Bacon
5. Javier Bardem

Though I hope you'll like Bardem, I thought he was great.

Maciej said...

1.Giamatti
2.Ganz
3.Bacon
4.Carrey
5.Bardem

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Reviews for Birdman are coming in and boy are they promising, Keaton and Norton have been ravished with praise in every review I've read

luke higham said...

GDSAO: That's great to hear, although I'll remain pessimistic for my first viewing, since I'm not Inarritu's biggest fan.

If the praise for Keaton is all it's cracked up to be then the five performances that I want to see reviewed via Nomination are:
Michael Keaton in Birdman
Steve Carell in Foxcatcher
Timothy Spall in Mr Turner
Matthew McConaughey in Interstellar
Joaquin Phoenix in Inherent Vice

Psifonian said...

Kevin,

Murray is my #2 behind Bardem that year, in what is probably the deepest year for Best Actor in history. He is a revelation as Steve Zissou, both hilarious and depressing. Makes his "Lost in Translation" performance seem like lazy prating.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@luke: that would be a very interesting set of nominations. I've heard Spall is terrific, I've come to expect nothing short of excellent from Phoenix and I'm sure McConaughey and Carrell will at the very least be very good.

On a separate note I wonder what category Christoph Waltz will be campaigned for Big Eyes if it gets enough buzz, if it's at least half-decent (I still have a lot of faith in the Burton who made Ed Scissorhands and Big Fish) he will definitely be in contention, the Academy seems to love him and with good reason

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@Pfsonian:

What are your ratings for the rest of the Life Aquatic cast, I really liked Murray and I though Wilson was pretty good, Goldblum and Blanchett were pretty impressive but my favourite was Dafoe, he was so sweet and endearing

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I can't believe anyone liked Life Aquatic, to be honest. That movie was one of the reasons I hated Wes Anderson until Mr. Fox.

luke higham said...

KoooK160: What were your thoughts on Fantastic Mr. Fox, since it's one of my personal top ten animated films of all time & honestly preferred it over UP from '09.

GDSAO: Disney will place him in Supporting, since he's more comfortable in that category going forward & like last year, the competition for 2 or 3 nomination slots will be tough since Carell & Spall are Locks in my eyes.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

It was very enjoyable. I will say I prefer Up, but Anderson's more childish impulses worked wonders for the movie. Honestly, I want him to direct another stop motion film.

Michael Patison said...

I completely disagree with all the love for Life Aquatic.

I thought the movie was rather boring and only intermittently succeeded in finding the right Wes Anderson-ey tone, with too much repetition of his usually entertaining flourishes.

I thought Murray was nothing more than adequate.

Willem Dafoe easily stole the show, and he'd be one of my nominees for the year.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Maybe I shouldn't talk, considering I though i heart huckabees was really good.

RatedRStar said...

=D Louis I think you might to see Life Aquatic, just to see, which set of people on this blog are right.

@Luke

1) Kevin Bacon (5)
2) Bruno Ganz (5)
3) Paul Giamatti (5)
4) Jim Carrey (5)
5) Javier Bardem (2 or 5 lol)


@Michael: Angel Di Maria =(

Ill not mention my thoughts Life Aquatic, I dont want to offend lol.

luke higham said...

RatedRStar: Can't believe Di M went to that asinine sinking ship, that call themselves a Football/Soccer Club, their 4-0 drubbing at the hands of the Dons last night was Fucking Classic!

RatedRStar said...

@Luke

I love Angel Di Maria he is what I would call nice and adorable like Dafoe in Life Aquatic lol, I think he will help them but not much, maybe cause James Rodriguez joined so maybe Di Maria wanted a hug and didnt get it lol.

RatedRStar said...

@Luke

On Fifa 15 I am transfering Di Maria straight back to Madrid lol.

Psifonian said...

I don't really do "ratings" of performances. Dafoe's my Best Supporting Actor win and I nominate Murray, Blanchett (who is better here than in her Oscar-winning role) and Goldblum.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

@Psifonian: Please tell me Carradine's in the top 3 of that Supporting Actor lineup.

Anonymous said...

Predictions:
1. Ganz
2. Carrey
3. Giamatti
4. Bacon
5. Bardem
What are your ratings and thoughts on Blanchett in The Aviator? And your thoughts on Virginia Madsen in Sideways?

Louis Morgan said...

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar:

Poitier - (One of the most charming stars of all time to be sure. Although he often played similair roles he was extremely adept at finding subtle different ways to explore his characters so that it never felt as though he was just repetitive or merely playing Sidney Poitier in every role)

Norton - (Norton's certainly a good actor with quite the intensity when he needs it. He's not one of my favorites though as I do think perhaps his ego can actually be seen sometimes in his lesser performance. There is almost too much ease at times in which he portrays the part, and he can't really get away with that as he definitely someone who is completely unable to coast in part)

Luke: I'll save Bale.

Pegg - 4.5(As a comedic performance Pegg is fantastic. His got great comic energy with Nick Frost, and together they make the zombie apocalypse quite an enjoyable experience. More than that Pegg is incredibly charming and endearing here as well. More than that though there is actually quite the powerful character arc to be found as Shaun has to deal with his relationships with his family and girlfriend at the same time. Pegg actually succeeds in making a fairly poignant and powerful depiction of his character's struggles, and is really quite heartbreaking in the scene where Shaun has to kill his loved one. It's fantastic work, and if I was being more selfish I would have included him in the five)

Michael Patison:

Powell - 3.5(It's basically him doing The Thin Man before The Thin Man. In that way it's quite a entertaining and enjoyable performance that's easy to watch as he breezes his way through a mystery. It's not quite on the level of his later detective work as it's relatively limited in the scheme of the film, and he does not have the likes Myrna Loy to play off of)

Armstrong - 3(I'm perhaps in the need of re-watch to give more detailed thoughts. I recall him not being overly charismatic but bringing enough of an off-beat style of the role to make his character stand out)

Psifonian:

I curse your name..........because I also am fan of The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou.

For this year, due to its stacked nature, I chose to not include some my more personal choices such as Pegg, Murray, and someone else but I have an itching to do some semi-category fraud for his sake.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous: Might as well ask about Madsen when I review Giamatti since I'll have re-watched Sideways.

Blanchett - 3.5(She's entertaining and brings some much needed energy to the proceedings of the Aviator. My only problem is that I never feel she really comes close to becoming Katherine Hepburn. It's a good impersonation, a very enjoyable one to watch, but it always feels like an impersonation)

Psifonian said...

Robert: Sorry. Carradine's good but he's barely in my Top 10.

Louis: "Zissou" is a classic.

RatedRStar said...

Can I ask everyone a question, it off topic, I got asked to do the Ice bucket challenge, but I would rather just give the money to the charity, cause I dont really want to do a video of myself putting ice water on me cause I really dont like doing vids and stuff of myself, I might get some criticism for it since a lot of people seem more interested in just the ice bucket side than the charity side since everyone does it on Facebook, any thoughts?

mcofra7 said...

1. Ganz
2. Giamatti
3. Carrey
4. Bacon
5. Bardem

Michael Patison said...

RatedRStar: Just donate. Write something eloquent about how people should be donating instead of dumping cold water on themselves. Then if you get criticized, it says more about them than you.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Jesus Louis, if Carradine doesn't get a 5 and take the year for Supporting, I'm going to cry.

luke higham said...

Louis: Can you get Ferrell out of the way first.

luke higham said...

Louis: Also is 1939 the last year you will cover.

Kevin said...

Louis, what are your ratings and thoughts on Tom Cruise and Javier Bardem in Collateral?

Or are you gonna review Cruise for supporting? (I think he is co-lead with Foxx)

GM said...

1. Ganz
2. Giamatti
3. Carrey
4. Bacon
5. Bardem

luke higham said...

I think Cruise is that someone else, Louis mentioned to do in supporting, despite it being lead

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I know it's tempting to review him in Supporting, but he really is co-lead.

Michael McCarthy said...

Maybe when he said "semi-category fraud" he meant Cruise would be in the supporting review line-up but would ultimately end up in lead, like Jeff Daniels in The Squid and the Whale.

luke higham said...

I can't see why not, considering '04 is his least favourite year for the Noughties & apart from Carradine, Madsen and Dafoe, supporting's pretty barren for great performances.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I suggest Mark Wahlberg's hilarious performance in i heart huckabees. He does the impossible task of sounding intelligent and dumb at the same time.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

I also have a personal love for Rip Torn in Dodgeball, but I haven't the nerve to suggest him.

bondfan said...

1. Ganz
2. Giamatti
3. Carrey
4. Bacon
5. Bardem

Michael McCarthy said...

Better throw mine in soon (though I should re-watch Sideways if I can):

1. Jim Carrey
2. Kevin Bacon
3. Bruno Ganz
4. Paul Giamatti
5. Javier Bardem

Mark said...

1. Ganz
2. Giamatti
3. Carrey
4. Bacon
5. Bardem

Also, I'm changing one of my requests from Culkin in 1990 lead to George Sanders in Rebecca for 1940 supporting.

Kevin said...

Actually Louis, if you are referring to Cruise, then I don't really mind the category fraud, as I really wanna see your review of his performance.

Also, what are your ratings and thoughts on Daniel Craig in Layer Cake?

Kevin said...

Or you can do him as a bonus review when you get to supporting

Kevin said...

Cruise I mean

Louis Morgan said...

Kevin: Haven't seen Layer Cake although I'll try to before the results.

Cruise was the one I was referring to, although I would never rank him in supporting since I do believe he is co-lead.

Bardem - 4(A very good one scene wonder from Bardem as he basically eats Foxx alive in the scene. Honestly I would not have minded if Vincent had to go get the information just to see Cruise and Bardem go toe to toe. Bardem though is great in instantly bringing such a palatable menace so quickly and turns his story of Santa Clause's helper into one of the best moments in the film)

luke higham said...

Louis: When is the first review up.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Louis, which actor would you say has gotten the most 4.5s from you but never a 5? Looking at your rankings it seems to be Ewan McGregor, which is actually a perfect description of him as an actor (always very solid, often very good and sometimes excellent, but has yet to have a role/performance that warrants that precious 5)

Also, undeserved nominations aside, what are your thoughts on Arthur Kennedy as an actor? Because I actually really like his film presence and he has some good unnominated work to his name.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

And also, your thoughts on David Bowie as an actor.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

I'm not sure what year I'll do last, although 39 certainly is not a bad idea.

The first review will probably be up some time tomorrow.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar:

I'd say its probably Ewan McGregor although Jude Law is close.

Arthur Kennedy I think was the perfect for some sardonic reporters evidenced by his performance in Elmer Gantry and another performance I'll get to later. Seriously though I think he knew how to stand out well enough even when the material was poor, but I feel he needed solid material as foundation for his performances to really work. Although I have liked him or at least found him decent most of the time but there has never been that one performance that really wowed me from him. Although I have been meaning to find some more of his leading turns since Bright Victory was his best Oscar nominated performance.

Slightly hard to answer about Bowie since I think I've only seen him in The Prestige. I will say that I thought he was very good there and had a fascinating off-beat charisma to his performance. I actually wish he'd play Tesla again for a film focused solely on the inventor.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

I am guessing that performance you'll get to later is Lawrence of Arabia? :D And who of the supporting cast are you going to do for that massice review haha

luke higham said...

GDSAO & Louis: I think Peter Sellers has more 4.5s without a single 5 than Ewan or Jude.

Louis Morgan said...

GetDonladSutherlanAnOscar:

Well since anyone with more than a few lines is worth talking about (well in Jose Ferrer's case he's still worth talking about) I'll be covering quite a few performances to be sure.

Luke: I think he's tied with Boris Karloff.