Tuesday, 21 May 2013

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1948

And the Nominees Were Not:

Robert Ryan in Act of Violence

Alec Guinness in Oliver Twist

James Stewart in Rope

Edward G. Robinson in Key Largo

Lionel Barrymore in Key Largo


RatedRStar said...

damn I forgot about Guinness lol
I think Robinson and Stewart will be the top 2.

1)Edward G Robinson
2)James Stewart
3)Alec Guinness
4)Robert Ryan
5)Lionel Barrymore

Michael Patison said...

Same here on both accounts.

1. James Stewart
2. Edward G. Robinson
3. Alec Guinness
4. Robert Ryan
5. Lionel Barrymore

Not really sure whether Stewart or Robinson will come out the victor, so I just decided to be different. I highly doubt that anyone will overtake Huston, though.

RatedRStar said...

true I think Huston will stick as the overall winner.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

My guess:

1. Stewart
2. Guinness
3. Robinson
4. Ryan
5. Barrymore

RatedRStar said...

Farley Granger and John Dall I think were very disapointing in Rope, I know they were both gay in real life so it helped but I think two better gay actors could have done their roles justice.

Im trying to think of 2 gay actors who could have done better, Clifton Webb could have I think.

JamDenTel said...

No Basil Sydney for HAMLET?

moviefilm said...

1) James Stewart
2) Edward G. Robinson
3) Robert Ryan
4) Lionel Barrymore
5) Alec Guiness

Lezlie said...

1. James Stewart
2. Alec Guinness
3. Robert Ryan
4. Edward G. Robinson
5. Lionel Barrymore

Michael Patison said...

@RatedRStar: There are the two major factors of age of actor in relation to approximate age of role and whether you mean to have the film be made at the same time, just with different people, or pick a dream gay actor duo for the parts. Also, Granger was bisexual, not simply gay.

Clifton Webb probably could've done either part better than Dall and Granger, but he was 29 years older than Dall (30 in 1948) and 36 years older than Granger (23 in 1948).

Some Possibilities:
Montgomery Clift has, of course, been rumored to have been gay, or possibly bisexual, and he would have been an interesting casting decision, though he I don't think he was "out" as Dall and Granger were. I could be wrong about any or all of those three actors' "out-ness". He was 28 in 1948 so right in the target age range.
Dirk Bogarde wasn't "out" during his career, though his homosexuality was assumed. He was 27 in 1948.
James Dean's sexual orientation has been debated since his death, of course. Either way, he could've been great in either role, though I know he didn't appear in a film until 3 years after Rope was released. My only issue is that he could have been overly mannered, something I found that he overcame for the most part, but could really hurt a portrayal of homosexual undertones. He was 17 in 1948.
Harry Andrews is an out-of-left-field choice, but could've been a potentially good one. He didn't make his debut until 1953, and I haven't seen him outside of his great work in The Hill, but he's an option. He was a bit older, at 37, in 1948, and so probably would've been out of the running, especially given that Jimmy Stewart was 40 at that point.
George Grizzard was mainly a TV and stage actor, but he won an Emmy and a Tony. He didn't make his stage debut until 1955 and his film and TV even after that. He was 20 in 1948.
Nigel Hawthorne of Madness of King George fame would have been 19.
Alec McCowen, mainly a stage actor, but an accomplished one at that, would have been 23.

That was a lengthy post essentially saying that yes, I agree, it could've been made with better gay or bisexual actors even at the time.

Maciej said...


RatedRStar said...

If it were a dream duo I guess , and im pretty sure Monty Clift was gay, in fact nearly 100%, theres lot of pictures of him in gay bars, with men lol and he always had this like, John Barrowman gayness to him if ya get me lol.

RatedRStar said...

I always feel sorry for the gay/Bi actors during them days like Sal Mineo and Montgomery Clift whos life and career ended in misery.

Thats probably why actors like Claude Rains are my favorites because they led rather poor personal lifes and I cant help but feel sorry for them lol.

Mark said...

Well gosh, I have no clue.

1. Stewart
2. Guiness
3. Robinson
4. Barrymore
5. Ryan

bondfan said...

1. Robinson
2. Stewart
3. Guinness
4. Ryan
5. Barrymore

Psifonian said...

1. Robinson
2. Guinness
3. Stewart
4. Ryan
5. Barrymore

Michael Patison said...

@RatedRStar: I know Barrowman, and I'm going to assume that you mean a sort of manly gayness? Honestly I have no idea what you could mean by that comparison. (I was aware that Barrowman is gay, however.)